Getting another machine.. PC 7424X or the Cyclo

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  1. gandhibrokemyskates

    gandhibrokemyskates slangin beer

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    I've had a 7424 but it broke so I need a new one. I stopped detailing a couple of years ago and about to start getting back into it. I want to step it up but don't feel ready for a rotary just yet.

    I have a feeling i just might buy another Porter Cable.

    hollar back!
     
  2. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    If you can afford it, get the Flex 3401. 50% higher OPM than the PC and 450 rpm fixed rotation. Most people on Autopia who've used it say it is nearly as good as a rotary. The new PC, the 7424xx (I think that is the name) that has a more powerful motor and 800 OPM more than the original. The Cyclo is a nice machine but for not much more you can get the Flex and pads are cheaper.

    Honestly, with Meguiars #105/205 and 3M Ultrafina, with not much practice you should be able to finish out hologram free using a rotary.
     
  3. gandhibrokemyskates

    gandhibrokemyskates slangin beer

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    yea, i could afford the Flex 3401. know of any sales on the Flex? I can order one tomorrow.
     
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    I am in the same boat (except my PC7424 still works hehe). I just purchased a new car and have the detail buzz again where I want to keep my car in great condition at all times. It's a white 2004 e46 M3 with great paint however there are swirls around the car.

    Is the PC capable of detailing BMW paint in a somewhat quick manner or would I be better off upgrading to the Flex (and possibly selling the PC if it would no longer be needed??)?


    I saw this special

    http://www.autogeek.net/flex-meguiars-polish-kit.html

    It includes the Flex, Megs 105 & 205, pads for these products (would any other pads even be needed for these two products or would it depend on the level of swirls??), etc...
     
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    gandhibrokemyskates slangin beer

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    just ordered it from autogeek. hollar!
     
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    I can tell you right now you will NOT regret the purchase of that Meg's kit. I use a Flex with the Meg's pads and 105/205 as well and as Scott alluded to it truly is almost as good as a rotary with the added benefit of no swirling to go back and fix.
     
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    I am thinking about getting the Porter XP version of the kit.

    Or should I spend the extra dollars and get the flex?

    Keep in mind, this will be my first time using a device like this
     
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    If you can afford the flex, that's the one to get. If you feel you can master the rotary (not as hard as you think), then get that.
     
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    I'll be ordering the flex based off your recommendation
     
  10. gandhibrokemyskates

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    Got my flex earlier than planned. woot, got it yesterday. i'm going to work on a pro stock mustang on monday and get it cleaned up. holla, then my car, then a zo6 vette, and then i think another vette
     
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    You'll love the Flex on those 'vettes... I've been doing all kinds of crazy work on a C5 all week and when it comes to the paint, the Flex has been a life saver paired with 105/205/Ultrafina :bigthumb:
     
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    I just did the pro stock mustang and my own car with the 105/205. The 105 is fkn awesome and got out all sorts of light scratches. I'm not sure about the 205 though. I didn't see a lot of wetness like I did with the DAPC & Swirl Free polish.

    After the 205, I used NXT wax, not the 2.0, on both cars. I haven't been able to take pictures yet because its been raining off and on down here.

    Is the Ultrafina a glaze? sealant?
     
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    Ultrafina is a final polish.... look back through some older threads to see more info about it.

    Actually after I posted about the 105/205 I started having problems with the 105 and switched back to my old polishes (ended up with 85 and 83) thanks to the fiberglass and hard paint.
     
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    #205 has better clarity and is more compatible with sealants due to less oils. Of course, it is the oils in #83/82 that give the wet look. #205 + Opti-Seal gives both clarity and wetness and is a really easy combo.

    Ultrafina is a finishing polish that enables you to finish out hologram free via rotary.
     
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    I might have Opti Seal, woot! I can't remember.

    I detailed my Element and found out my hood is fubared. The clearcoat is cracking. :( boo
     
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    My issue with the rotary is that its a PITA to use with dense pads. Well at least for me it is and Ive been using one for some time. Ive found Id rather use a much more aggressive compound or polish with a softer pad at higher speeds. And Im no rook Ive been using a rotary since 2002.

    If I wasnt becoming semi-retired from pro detailing I also would pick up a flex.
     

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