Getting a few things cleared up...

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  1. Inferno

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    Alright, I'm going to be really dedicated to loosing weight....

    I'll buy myself a CrossTrainer and some sets of dumbells for now.

    I'll be eating as much protien as I can, I'll cut down on the fatty shit. I'll stop going to McDonalds (don't really like it, jsut convienient) and other fast food places and I'll pack my own lunches. I stopped drinking soda a few months ago and I haven't had any regular pepsi in like a month :hs:

    Tomorrow I plan on going shoppin for some food:hsd:

    Heres my list on what to get so far, feel free to make any changes/additions.

    Eggs
    Peanut Butter
    Low Fat/No Fat Mayo
    Tuna
    Chicken Breasts
    1% Milk
    Protien Shakes (if theres any at my grocerie store)
    Bananns
    Apples
    Oranges
    Carrots
    Lettuce
    Oatmeal
    Cereal
    No Fat Yogurt
    Steak
    Green Tea
    Brown Bread

    Okay, so starting tuesday my day will go like this, although I'm not sure if I should do 20-30 minutes of cardio in the morning when I wake up or after in the evening.

    Breakfast ~ Oatmeal or Eggs or Cereal and a protien shake

    Lunch ~ Tuna Sandwich w/ Brown Bread

    Dinner ~ Chicken Breasts w/ Potatoes or something

    Plz give me some suggestions on my daily meals....

    Also, what are some excersizes that are effective with just dumbells?

    Sorry for all the stupid questions :hs:
     
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    *sigh*

    grocery list looks ok. cottage cheese is agreat source of protein as well. just get the low fat kind. i mix mine with some low fat yogurt and that way i get some carbs and protein in one easy snack. I eat about 5 small meals a day because I find that it works best for me. It keeps me from getting really hungry and wanting to binge. also get sirloin or a lean type of steak. you want natural peanut butter, not jif or peter pan or any of that stuff. you don't need cereal. you can eat oatmeal, eggs, lean ham, wheat toast, and so much more for breakfast, don't eat cereal. mustard is better than mayo. also you can get sugarfree applesauce that is good. it's a little tart because it' made out of granny smith apples, but its better than a hard apple, at least to me. when you go shopping, look at cals/fat/carb/ and protein content of the stuff you buy. the more protein the better, the less cals the better. also since you are dieting, i would get the 100% myoplex whey from EAS. it has very low carbs and cals and fat. with 22 g of protien. eat some strawberries or an orange with your shake, thats a snack.
     
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    I can't stand cottage cheese, and mustard with tuna is a nono :hs:

    I'll get the apple sauce and that kind of steak, whats the myoplex whey?

    Protien shake? how much is it?

    I've noticed that I used to never have the time for breakfast before and I'd get REALLY hungry at lunch so I would over eat :hs:

    I'll take your suggestion and not buy any cereal :hs:

    Also, what about the dumbell question, what excersizes should I do on what days?

    Thanks for your great response :hs:
     
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    I can't stand cottage cheese either, that's why I mix it with yogurt. It;s so much easier than cooking a chicken breast or steak or eggs. I can take it with me already mixed up. It tasted just like yogurt, just with clumps in it.

    http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1524
    http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=82 this sis the one i got. a 5lb jug of chocolate. but i've heard good things about the first link, it's just kinda expensive.
     
  6. shastaisforwinners

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    they aren't stupid, they've just been discussed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.....















    and over. Seriously, at least 25% of the posts in F&N are almost IDENTICAL to yours. Please read them.
     
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    hey everyone is new at some point. i was. i like dit when people actually talked to ME and not another poster.
     
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    I understand what your saying, I'm just pointing out that he's not asking for anything specific to his needs. What he wants to know is the same thing that's already covered in the stickies and a billion other posts :) That's hy I wasn't mean to him, just trying to get the point across that this forum + the archives have way more/better information than he's going to be able to get from a single post.
     
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    I found the other day that cottage cheese with some jelly is really good. Keep in mind it doesn't take much at all so don't overdo it.
     
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    is it even possible to get into really good shape with just dumbells and a cross trainer?

    :hs:
     
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    why get a crosstrainer?

    I hope you accomplish you goals man, it'll be tough, don't give up. I would seriously read a lot more posts around this forum tho...
     
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    Do you not have transportation? Joining a gym will be the best idea...
     
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    This is a crosstrainer:
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    yeah, I won't give up :hs:
     
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    thats my problem, I'm low on teh monies and the gym is pretty far away...
     
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    that crosstrainer gotta cost more than a year's membership fee to the gym!

    I joined the local YMCA... 20 bucks a month
     
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    yeah, its a good deal for a YMCA membership, but the closest one is downtown and I'm all the way on the outskirts of the city, with no car.
     
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    instead of spending $400 on the cross trainer why not get a power rack, barbel and bench, and run outside instead?
     
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    Up All Night I might sleep all day

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    :werd:

    And for protein i'd reccommend a 10lb bag of ON whey ( i like chocolate)
     
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    cause for some reason I run longer on a cross trainer :hsugh:

    [and I don't know what to do with the barbell and the bench, etc. :hsugh: ]
     
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    :hsugh:

    if it's harder running outside it probably means you'd burn more calories and be done faster that way.

    and if you're not sure what to do with free weights,

    http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html


    don't make it so hard for us to help you. you ask for good advice and when you get it, you come up with excuses to not follow it.

    if you were REALLY serious about this, right now we'd be telling you to slow down, that you were working too hard and going to extremes, but instead, everyone's telling you that you aren't even *planning* to do enough.

    doesn't that tell you something?
     
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    Excersizes
    :hsugh: don't get your panites all up in a bunch :hsugh:

    anyways, thanks for the link, I appreciate it :bigthumb:

    does running burn more fat then walkin the same distance?

    by the way, for the link you gave me what are some you recommend that I do and on what days?

    I'm not coming up with excuses not to follow it, cause' trust me... I wanna loose weight :hsd:

    I'm reading the South Beach Diet right now... says that I shouldnt eat ANY carbs for 2 weeks, even the good carbs (fruit) and I'll loose like 7-14 lbs, then I add more carbs into my diet, etc.

    I'm strugglin with thinking up meal ideas for my day without eating the same shit everyday: Chicken Breasts, Steak, Apples, Oranges, Banannas, Eggs, Tuna and Oatmeal :hsugh:

    I'll probably get a log in teh subform set up so I can track my progress :hs:

    Thanks for your help man, and trust me... I'm dedicated to loosing weight :hs:
     
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    diet

    honestly i think its just easier to go by calories than keeping track of what you can and can't eat like with south beach etc. maintenance calories are how many cals you should eat to keep your body weight as it is, therefore

    if you consume less calories, you'll lose weight.

    if you consume more, they are stored as body fat and you gain weight... but i guess you already know all about that :p

    http://home.socal.rr.com/aznthug/Caloric%20Calculator.zip

    that excel spreadsheet should tell you how many calories to aim for everyday to lose weight. losing anything more than 2-3 lbs a week is not generally considered healthy. diet alone, without cardio or lifting, is sufficient on its own to induce weight loss.

    www.fitday.com is free to register and will help you keep track of every calorie you eat, and the nutrition split between protein/fats/carbs. the calorie calculator spreadsheet will tell you how many grams of each you should be aiming for.


    cardio

    you don't need to go overboard. burning 500 calories doing cardio 3x a week is enough. for a rough estimate of how much physical activity it would take to burn 500 calories:

    http://www.primusweb.com/cgi-bin/fpc/actcalc.pl

    first of all, cardio is mostly about increasing the deficit between calories you are taking in and your maintenance calories, the deficit which you create through your diet. increasing your calorie deficit by doing cardio 3x a week for 500 cals a pop should be sufficient.

    secondly, don't think about running vs. walking in terms of distance, but time spent doing it. 30 mins of running will burn more calories than 30 mins of walking.


    weight lifting

    for the purposes of losing weight, this is much better than cardio because not only are you burning calories while actually performing the activity, but you're also burning more calories over the next two days as your muscles rebuild. this doesn't really occur with cardio. also, a significant portion of weight being lost from dieting is from muscle. weightlifting during this caloric deficit may not cause an increase in muscle mass, but it will help to minimize muscle loss.

    christophers' base routine:

    http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1574598

    ^ you'd definitely need a power rack for that.





    and for god's sake it's "losing" not "loosing!"


    gym time, later

    :wavey:
     
  24. xpinchx

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    Diet: Don't do any nocarb/lowcarb/nofat/lowfat trendy diet shit. It's all bullshit and after you stop the diet, the weight will come back on. Just eat clean. I know it can be hard and frustrating, but just do it and you wil benefit in the long run. You won't lose any weight by eating no carbs for 2 weeks. Any water weight that you do lose will come right back on after you stop. Eat 5 small meals throughout the day. Stick to clean protein sources (boneless skinless chicken breast, cottage cheese, lean beef, tuna, salmon, eggs, etc. Simple carbs: whole wheat/wholegrain bread products, fruits, veggies, veggies, and more veggies. fats: keep your fat intake from food low. You'll want most of your fat from supplements (fish oil, flax seed oil) to benefit you the most. This is a lifestyle change, not a diet. If you eat clean foods like I listed above, you will lose weight.

    Also, you seem confused about protein shakes. You make protein shakes, you don't buy them. Go to www.1fast400.com and get some ON 100% Whey. 5 lbs should be fine to get you started off and find a good flavor. Chocolate seems to be everyone's favorite. Mix in 2 cups of your whey, 1 1/2 cups fat free skim milk, 1/2 a bannana, 1 tbs or more of natural peanut butter. Blend that shit up, add some ice, and chug the motherfucker down. Protein bars can be okay if you're on the go or don't have time to prepare one.

    For exercising, don't bother with the cross trainer - it will be a complete waste of your money. If you're going to throw that much money out there - get a real olympic barbell, an olympic bench, a set of dumbells, and of course a weight set. If you have money left over, get a power rack. These 5 items will do much more good for you than any AS-SEEN-ON-TV contraption ever will. If someone here will help you put a routine together, and you follow it strictly, you will burn fat 5x faster than any cardio can, and you'll be putton on muscle at the same time. It's just better. If you have any more quesetions I can probably point you in the right direction.
     
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    You guys are soo much helpful then the folks in the main OT :hsugh:

    Anyways, you said chug that mofo down... well is that cause' it's nasty? It sounds pretty good :yum:

    Now you've got me thinkin to get that other stuff instead of a cross trainer.
     
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