Genetic Weaknesses

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  1. JuggetEQ

    JuggetEQ New Member

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    Over the course of my workout days, I have noticed that people are generally "stronger" in certain areas than others (via- chest, bi's, shoulders, etc.). I also know that these areas are this way due to tendon placement and genetics. But here's my situation:

    I have been working out for about 2 years now. I have noticed that the strongest part of my body are my triceps. Everything on my body is purporational, but my chest. I am weak in my chest. I read that if you build up you triceps, they can give you a bigger bench. My tri's are quite big and have helped me put another 40lbs on my max bench over 2 years.

    BTW i am:
    18 yrs old
    5'7"
    145lbs
    9% BF

    I bench a max of 185lbs.
    But i can do overhead tricep extentions all day long with 30lb db's. As well as weighted dips with ease.

    My chest routine:
    -Machine db press (12-8x3)
    -Incline Machine db press (12-8x3)
    -Cable flys (failurex2)

    Should i keep on keeping on? (Should I just stay with my routine now and wait out results?) Or do more workouts that target my chest only and not so much of my arms/shoulders.

    If so, what are some workouts that target only the chest? cables?
     
  2. Snowman

    Snowman I know the Benzes. OT Supporter

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    I would get rid of the machines. These are pretty good for chest: incline BB and DB, flat bench BB and DB.
     
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    thx for that chart...i workout 6 days a week sometimes 7, sometimes 5, most of the time 6
     
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    For working out over 2 years you should be stronger than that. YOu need to do freeweights and stay away from machines. If you have had that same routine for 2 years than that is problem one. Why don't you do close grip bench or skull crushers?
     
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    Genetic weakness is a generic excuse. Get a good routine and quit making excuses. A legitimate genetic weakness would be like missing a leg at birth or something.
     
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    Your completely wrong. Genetics have EVERYTHING to do with EVERYTHING.
    For example: Tendon placement (a genetic factor) can determine your leverage on all weight you attempt to lift. Hence, small limbed guys curling 120 lb db's no problem; as apposed to a long limbed person only being able to lift a 55 lb db, spending the exact same time in the gym.
     
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    I change up my routine about every 3 weeks.
     
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    your meaning?
     
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    thats why i asked if i should keep on keeping on
     
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    Even with machines you should be way beyond this. It sounds to me like your form might not be that great. When you reach the top of your movement, contract the muscle and hold it for a couple seconds, then slowly bring the weight back down to get the benefits of the negative. Try a narrow grip to push more volume
     
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    Well, the way you were speaking made it seem that you were, more/less mocking me. You wanted to :mb: and i wanted an honest opinon.

    Sorry, I misunderstood. No hard feelings. :p
     
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    YOu don't have the first clue about lifting do you? Please stop deluding yourself with this mentality of blaming it on genetics(the I can't do it), it seems the truth is you don't what to do what is neccessary to get where you want.
     
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    ANd workout your legs I'm tired of hearing this I bench blablablah shit
     
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    Excuse me, but did you just read half of this page and decide to grace us with your ignorance?

    I am not blaming genetics for anything. I simply stated a proven fact about genetics being a huge issue when it comes to bodybuilding and weight training. For example, I have a friend that has spent the same amount of time in the gym as I; he can do one armed pullups. I can't do that, I doubt seriously that many people could.
     
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    did you ever begin to think, he eats differently with you, trains differently than you, sleeps better than you, rests more than you? The only ignorant person in this thread is you with your 145lb self asking for help and then giving excuses. YOu obviously have never worked out your legs. Your routine sucks but no it must not be your routine, it has to be genetics. :rolleyes:
     
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    not sure of the exact quote but..

    "the more i eat the better my genetics seem to get!"
     
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    Your opinion is duely noted, and I shall file it [font=&quot]appropriately.

    We eat, sleep, train about the same. So, if what you say is true, (Your arguement: genetics aren't a factor in the human a bodies' [/font]performance) you could tell a 35 year old, that he can grow a foot taller if he ran and jumped more; or, better yet, you could tell anyone that they could look exactly like Arnold Schwarzenegger. (Your accusations[font=&quot] are flawed) For you to say that genetics has nothing to do with weight-training, is you, advertising your own ignorance.


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    JuggetEQ New Member

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    Somewhere down the line Neo22, was given wrong information. I rather correct him now than let him embarrass himself. I am not cutting him down or anything, but I just don't want him to make a fool of himself in public. It's happened to me-Gosh I hate that feeling.
     
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    :rofl: :rofl: you're a fucking idiot.

    eat more and take the sand out of your vag and you will grow
     
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    I Dunno. Why AM I only 145lbs and benching 185lbs?
     
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    I wasn't meaning to be a dick. Sorry if i came on that way. :)
     
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    because you dont eat enough
     
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    Natezilla Ain't nothin' but a peanut.

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    You don't eat enough and you don't lift enough. It's that simple. Genetics aren't even remotely a factor in limiting you, you only bench 185.
    I don't know what DB machines are but get the fuck off of them and start using heavy free weights (and I'm using heavy as a relative term).

    Here's a good workout/diet plan for you:

    Eat
    Eat
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    Eat
    Lift
    Eat
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    Eat
    Eat
    Lift
    Eat
    Eat
    Eat
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    Lift
    Eat
    Eat
    Eat
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    Eat
    Lift
    Eat
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    Repeat
     
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    Program (in a nutshell):
    -Day 1: Bi, Back, Lats, shoulders, shrugs
    -Day 2: Tri, chest, abs
    Diet (in a nutshell):
    -Lean bulking: Tuna, chicken breast, lots of fruit, lots of veggies, water, juices
    Dedication: Mostly 6 day/week, sometimes less
    Intensity: I go till total muscle failure.
     
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