FWD: how big of a deal?

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  1. Purchasing/Tuning a FWD car is a waste of money. Period.

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  2. For price to power, it’s worth purchasing/tuning some FWD cars, despite hp/torque barriers

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  1. pitchblue

    pitchblue New Member

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    So, we've all heard of the various downfalls of FWD and the benefits of RWD/AWD; my question is:


    How many people honestly have felt that FWD has severely limited their car performance wise? Or how many people believe that FWD is a waste of time and tuning money?
     
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    danonboost I invite you

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    Your intentions aren't clear enough for a good answer.
     
  3. pitchblue

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    what the fuck?
     
  4. danonboost

    danonboost I invite you

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    Yeah crazy words there I know.

    What are you goals for the car? A DD? I love my FWD for a daily. I think they are huge waste in many other areas. So again, what are your intentions.
     
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    Personally, i'm daily driving and "lightly" modding a volkswagen mk4 gli right now until I can get the funds to move on. I was just concerned with others opinions of FWD.
     
  6. donson

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    who cares what anyone else thinks. drive what makes you happy, fwd, rwd, awd

    there are obvious limitations to fwd but i dont think they apply to basic dd's.
     
  7. danonboost

    danonboost I invite you

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    I think FWD is perfectly fine for what you're using it for. If you have any bigger plans I'd start elsewhere. FWD doesn't mean a hp/tq disadvantage or barrier.
     
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    The main advantage to FWD in my opinion is that the car can be pretty light and so (hopefully) fun to drive, while still being large enough for practical use. Example: 90s Civic hatch vs. 90s Miata.

    Tho in most cases, particularly with newer cars, they're both so big and heavy to begin with that it's a matter of diminishing returns. Example: Volkswagen vs. BMW :hs:

    Of course, most cheap cars are FWD, so that's another consideration.
     
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    GuiltySparc OT Supporter

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    FWD is perfectly fine for a DD.

    It should never, ever, be considered for any performance applications.
     
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    I appreciate the response; but, I know its fine for what i'm using it for; thats why I have it haha. Again, I just am curious what others think.

    And eventually there is a hp/tq "wall" where power starts to become unusable with such little traction imo
     
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    gtfo. mk1 vw's are some of the fastest cars in solo racing. different drivetrain just means different driving styles. granted, there are many other cars with different drivetrains, doesn't mean you should rule one out altogether.

    personally, i like rwd more than anything else, but i love how some fwd cars handle. anything tuned right is a blast to drive, and can be competitive in some form of racing.
     
  12. GuiltySparc

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    i'm not saying there aren't fast FWD cars but all things being equal, the same car with FWD will be outperformed in every arena by a RWD or AWD doppelganger.
     
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    Not counting drivetrain inefficiencies and driver skill, yeah. Including them, no.
     
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    Probably depends most on how good a driver you are and your preffered driving style.
    My last car was a 200sx S13 and had good sticky Toyo tyres, my current car is a fwd Seat Leon Cupra and has the tyres it came with, some Goodyear tourers. Same power but I have no doubt the Leon would piss all over the S13 on a circuit, but then of course the S13 was older tech.

    I have seen plenty of silly fast fwd hatchbacks embarress more powerful rwd cars on a track, most of them are so damn light :big grin:

    Hanging the back out is always fun though and impresses more than some squealing understeer lol
     
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    FWD is a good middle ground giving you fuel economy and winter drivability :dunno:
     
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    Why start with a disadvantage?
     
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    I think we already covered there being advantages and disadvantages :ugh: :gtfo:
     
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    for most daily drivers, FWD is better.


    for racing, fwd is teh lose.
     
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    for all the fwd haters, look up v-tec powered classic minis... a stock b16a will make those things insanely fast.
     
  20. tenplanescrashing

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    i fucking hate RWD snobs...get off your fucking pedistal. there is nothing wrong with modding a FWD car or even racing one. yes, most RWD applications will easily be faster than a similar FWD one but should we all buy the same fucking car?

    if modding a daily driver is your thing, i'd much rather do it to a FWD than a RWD anyday. if pure racing is your thing, i'd take a look at all types of applications
     
  21. notaniceperson

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    FWD FTL. or commuter.

    AWD is the only way to go for me.
     
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    with a buttload of torque steer. :hsugh:
     
  23. Flying Brick

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    I had a mildly modded FWD DSM at one point in time. Traction and torque steer aside, it was fun leaving quarter mile long tire marks on the road. That's about it.
     
  24. MrBonus

    MrBonus Et Tu, Brute?

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    :rofl:

    What the fuck does 'driver skill' have to do with any practical comparison between drivetrains?
     
  25. OFI

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    Regardless they are fucking quick around a track
     

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