Future compatition for Intel / AMD?

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  1. aim2kill

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    Intel's market share isn't in the ultra-low-cost PC segment anyway; that's been dominated by AMD, VIA, and Transmeta for years.

    Still, it's good to see progress is being made. I bet this chip could shave a few watts each off a few million network appliances, which should add up nicely.
     
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    hopefully. i just saw it as a step in the right direction
     
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    AMD has *NEVER* and I emphasize ***NEVER*** been even remotely competitive in the mobile market. Intel has had such a rediculous lock on that market that it's not even funny.

    It has always been a mark of stupidity and ignorance to buy an AMD-equipped mobile device.


    When it comes to low-end, or super-ultra-deluxe-happy-portable laptops/notebooks, Intel has remained king over all that is performance and battery life. When it comes to more specialized devices (such as cell phones and pda's) there have been other mainstay competitors, such as MIPS -- but Intel has remained competitive.

    Transmeta has never been successful in anything it's undertaken. It's always had an identity crisis.

    VIA has some niche products, but still hasn't done anything remotely comprable to Intel.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but this new VIA processor uses more power than the Atom at equivalent clock speeds.
     
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    yep. Intel has the heat/power thing down to a science. No one else is even close.
     
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    Yeah, but the next question is whether equivalent clock speeds are necessary for equivalent performance.
     
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    actually, I think the Intel Atom actually does more per clock, as well :mamoru:
     
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    Doing more per clock isn't the issue either. The P4 did more per clock and had a faster clock than the Athlon XP, and the Athlon XP still whipped its ass.

    Yes, I know that was the past. I'm just using it to illustrate the issue at hand.
     
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    well then lets put that little fucker in a EEE pc already

    i see dell and acer have announced ultra portable notebooks. i dont need one, my macbook is good. but i still *want* one
     
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    Fujitsu Lifebook P1610.
     
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    Yeah, they ain't cheap. That's for a tablet, though; their regular laptops are less expensive.
     
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    no, actually the P4 did LESS per clock than the Athlon. That's why AMD went to their processor-number-rating-system.



    the P4 was viable because it allowed Intel to dramatically increase clock rates at the core as well as on the bus. Intel also introduced some great new x86 instructions, and the long pipes made hungry content-creation apps very happy.

    However, when it came to actual work done per clock, the Athlon and Pentium III did more.
     
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    meh, i just thought it was cool someone else is fighting to enter the market. not like there going to be serious compatition, at least for a while. but its a good start.

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    id love to see chip prices driven down like flash and ram prices.
     
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