MIL FU land nav

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  1. geekboy

    geekboy Target Agent OT Supporter

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    got a nogo because i was short a point for day land nav :wtc:


    Got any tips and tricks for day&night land nav at LDAC? :x::x:
     
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    land nav is easy
     
  3. shiba

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    how are you online?! they took away all our cell phones when I went to LDAC.

    IIRC, there should be plenty of cadet trails for the day navigation course. For night, start with the closest one first and progress out. You cadets should be helping each other out too. My class compiled all our points onto one sheet during the day course so we had something to refer to on the night course.

    Also watch out for those ant hills.
     
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    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Yet another lost officer. :rofl: Land Nav is one of the easiest things to do, just break the legs down into shorter segments.

    1. Get your azimuth
    2. Get your distance
    3. Stand at start point and identify an object in the distance that is on your azimuth and is easily recognizable.
    4. Walk to object while maintaining a pace count
    5. Repeat till you arrive at point


    Pro tip: Check route by shooting back azimuths at selected objects after passing.
     
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    i'm going to LDAC this summer.

    'compiled all our points'
    would that be cheating? i heard the cadres don't even let you talk to each other during land nav
     
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    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    I taught land nav for three years at the Air Force Combat Comm Readiness School.
     
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    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Fuck using cheat sheets because you don't learn that way. Practice the basics and become proficient at land nav.
     
  8. geekboy

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    can i blame it on a shitty map? well, it's not even a map. it's photocopy map on a piece of paper with no terrain feature.

    the terrain is horrible. i either walking up hill, down hill or through thick vegetation
     
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    i did night&day land nav at FTX last fall at Camp Pendleton. i got 8/8 for day and 4/5 for night :dunno:
     
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    btw, is there a way to maintain accurate pace count? you can't use dead reckoning to get from point A to point B because there might be an obstacle/boulder/big bush/dead hooker, etc on your route
     
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    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Box method will help maintain accurate pace count when going around a obstacle.
     
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    what base? at benning i just used the roads, never touched my compass.
     
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    I thought a soldier factory would just have beaten trails you could follow to points. Just use those. Worry about learning it for real when you get to the real Army.
     
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    land nav at pendleton is easy as fuck
     
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    Land nav is easy. My friends who did it at Ft Lewis for LDAC said it's pretty easy there. I aced it every time at Ft Dix
     
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    How did you get your pace count? Did you do it on a flat surface or did you do it in the bushes/brush where the majority of your walking is?
     
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    Raisedshoulder Some Blode.

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    I did land nav a month ago. I had no idea what I was doing since it was my first semester. Anyone go through LTC? Was there a lot of land nav training?
     
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    Yea, it's best to get different pace counts for the terrain you are in. Flat, hilly and brush. And don't make the mistake of really stepping it out when you are counting. You need to take into account you getting tired and taking smaller, slower steps.
     
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    BTW. bring hydrocortisone for the mosquito bites.
     
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    still too cold right now for mosquito's to be a bother
     
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    Land nav in cadetland is easy hell. Use the trails to your advantage. You hardly ever have to use your compass. Learn to terrain associate and set a backstop for yourself so you don't go past your point. At the recon course they took away our compasses and eventually our maps, so use the assets you have at your disposal.
     
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    lol i would give you tips but im too drunk to think right now.
     
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    i did the same thing at OCS. easiest shit ever.

    i eventually want to learn how to do real landnav. i never shot a back azimuth and i didnt properly learn the terrain features. i took the easiest route to a first time go every time :o
     
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    I went to LTC two summers ago. You will spend a fair amount of time doing Land Nav training, starting out with some classroom type briefings where they cover terrain features and give you materials to practice with. Then during field portions you do a huge orienteering course, and finally complete both day and night land nav that are graded. By that point you should be just fine though. I will be out at LTC this summer as cadre, not sure what I will be doing yet though.

    edit: and land nav out at LDAC is not too bad either. as others have said, it is riddled with cadet trails all over the place (esp the mid to late regiments). Lots of trails that are on the map to use as attack points as well.
     
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