Let's call this the "I suck at guessing my size when ordering over the internet" sale. I wanted a pant that looked decent, had better-than-jeans protection, and wouldn't be totally out of the question to wear in a public setting if I rode there. These pants looked to be it but once again my waist is bigger in real life then I perpetuate on the internet and they're too small. Size XL (34, says Joe Rocket) Usage: Auction didn't mention usage, but these things showed up brand effin new. No tags. I tried them on, wore them for 10 minutes, and took them off. Price: $65 shipped. A description of the features is here, I won't reiterate. http://www.newenough.com/joe_rocket_stage1_pants_page_private.htm They do look like good pants, I'm watching an auction for a pair of XXLs right now. They'll hit ebay by midweek if there's not much of a response.