GUN Friend bought a gun, waited 3 days for NICS, shop said pick it up

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  1. johnson

    johnson New Member

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    FBI responsed on the 4th day to deny the sale. Shop called him again to tell him what happened and said he could appeal but he returned the gun anyway.

    What would have happened if he was stopped and wasnt supposed to own a firearm?
     
  2. Bloody Sunday

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    why did he get denied?
     
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    DV conviction, TPO, could be a lot of things...
     
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    Obama makes them randomly deny applications, it is a new Executive Order he signed called the "Random Deny Act"
     
  5. wickedgun

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    if he refused to return it, shop would just notify the gang and they would take action, shop did all they were suppose to do.
     
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    phrozenlikwid New Member

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    Did the FFL fuck up?

    It's been a while since I worked at a gunstore, but doesn't NICS have a week to get back to you, before you can give someone the gun? I'm wanting to say that's how we did it, but I might be wrong.
     
  8. Keesh

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    I think it's something like 3 or 4 days before the store can release the gun if they don't hear back.
     
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    I tried looking it up, but what I found still wasn't clear. Something about waiting 3 days, but then FBI can call back afterwards (with no given time frame) and tell you to deny the sale. Sounds like a good way for a dealer to get fucked, and maybe why we did the week thing.
     
  10. Keesh

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    Yeah, a couple years ago I got 'delayed' and the gunshop wouldn't give it to me after 3 days. I can't say I blame them, not worth the hassle for a $20 transfer. I think it went though on the 4th or 5th day anyway.
     
  11. johnson

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    I believe that if they don't respond in 3 days, the FFL can sell the firearm at their discretion, which is what they did.

    I think it was longer than 3 days actually. He said he went in on a Monday or Tuesday and picked it up on Saturday.

    http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm#top
     
  12. kellyclan

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    Hope he commited whatever heinous acts he had planned while he had it.
     
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    Could've been a paperwork screw up or some one at the FBI clicking a wrong button or someothing.

    Humans.
     
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    3 day wait?

    Waiting for them to copy my CCL ftw.

    Sucks if the copier is slow, it can take up to i dunno, 45 seconds.
     
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    It isn't hard to do. Part of my job is registering handguns people bring into the police station (don't agree with it, but whatever), and the FBI system will hit on anything with the same birthday, or SSN, and it is fairly easy to mistake. I had one of my coworkers mistake someone for someone else who had a $30k warrant once, but luckily the arresting officer wasnt so dumb and caught it in about 30 seconds. :o

    With that in mind, if he has any felonies, or battery dv charges without a disposition (meaning, it was never updated if he was convicted or not), or any pending felony or battery dv cases, they will deny him. I know here, he would be able to do a records check, and see his own record, and challenge anything he disputed, possibly getting it off his record if it is determined to not actually be him.
     
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    The shame is, they dont do the same for my police ID, when I have been through a very extensive background check (about between a secret and top secret military check), and my dept is constantly checking employees for shit they dont disclose.
     
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    The background check for me has never taken over a minute or two. I wonder why he was denied??
     
  18. Bloody Sunday

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    i've done four since i moved from california. and the three were straight away, but the last one took forever.

    i used my CHP as my 2nd ID, maybe i'll just continue to use my hunting license from now on...
     
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    I don't know anything about your friend, but I've asked about the randomness of NICS checks and I've never heard a good answer. I know guys who are guaranteed to have to wait the maximum time before picking up their stuff, who have never been in a bit of trouble. Subsequent calls to NICS turned up no good reasons either. :dunno:
     
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    I have never had it take more than a couple minutes. The only time I had to wait was when I got my Mosin Magant from Big 5 on black Friday, but that was because they were overloaded with calls.
     
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    Do people who have to wait a long time give their ss#? I noticed on the form that it says that it is not required, but will speed up the process....
     
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    In case you share the same birthday or name with a felon.
     
  23. Bloody Sunday

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    i give my ssn, but i was still delayed on the last one...
     
  24. ZCP M3

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    I always put mine down just in case. I've never had any issues with NICS though.
     

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