FreeBSD - What's the Appeal?

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  1. coronet

    coronet Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep?

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    What makes BSD a better system than Linux? Not that I am really getting into the GNU and how kernels have come about, I'm really interested in trying another UNIX-like. I'm thinking Arch Linux; which is a much optimized version of Linux for the i686. But not forgetting the other one, BSD. Why the sackriding? Is it easier? Funner? Faster? Securer? What is the reason some OTers have been using it for their desktop OS?

    Try not to bash anything, please... just trying to understand what the love for BSD is, and maybe figure out which of the two (Arch or FreeBSD) I will try next.
     
  2. Peyomp

    Peyomp New Member

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    I would try out OpenBSD, if I were you. It is extremely stable, as that is the focus of its design and implementation, making it suitable for use as a server operating system for mission critical applications.
     
  3. coronet

    coronet Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep?

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    So, OpenBSD over FreeBSD?

    But I just want to check out the desktop-side of BSD :dunno:
     
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    Shaggy007 New Member

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    FreeBSD is maybe the best one for you to choose. Biggest advantage of BSD, is that it's more stable than most everything out there. Disadvantage, it takes a long time to get new advances included.
     
  5. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    *BSD is damn stable and secure, and it has that in mind while being desinged. Though that is also it's downfall since (as stated earlier) it takes a while for things to be ported over, it all has to be secreened well for potential problems.

    i love it, your mother loves it, your father loves it.
     
  6. coronet

    coronet Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep?

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    Oh, cool. Now I see why it would make a great webserver (Only one error ever found in OpenBSD? Amazing!). I will check it out then, for sure.

    250GB Seagates at Fry's only $70 (after MIR), I'mma be pickin' one up :eek5:
     
  7. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    get 2 and do sw raid 1
     
  8. Peyomp

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    I love RAID 1. It makes me happy. Makes me feel warm and secure.

    I still think you should play with OpenBSD. That is more of an actual career skill than FreeBSD.
     
  9. MrMan

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    FreeBSD is focused on many hardware support.
    OpenBSD on security.
     
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    many dumb replies by geeks who want to say its cool because not many people use it. One advantage it has is for socket polling, rather than go thru each socket one by one like on linux it only works with the active sockets in use being polled. So it can handle more connections :)
     
  11. anthrax31337

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    same as linux.. X
     
  12. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    Xorg > X
     
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    Not for Linux. The last thing you want to be mucking around with is the disk controllers (like Promise, High Point, SIIIG, nVidia) which are in a Raid configuration with split partitions. You may have enough problems just getting the SATA drives to work within Linux (especially if it's a Promise controller on an ASUS board.)
     
  14. Peyomp

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    You don't have to use a Promise card or some mostly software based RAID crap like that. Software/hybrid cards like those from Promise are worse than software RAID. Instead, you just make a RAID 1 device out of two drives using a normal controller. Its really easy to do in Fedora, SuSE, etc. when you install. And I've run such arrays for long periods without any trouble. I don't know how their failure resiliance was, though, because it never happened.

    Whats the problem with software RAID 1?
     
  15. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    obviously you have zero experience with linux, SW raid and SATA.
     
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    Raid Fight! Raid Fight!
     
  17. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    Raid 6 FTW!
     
  18. Peyomp

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    The only way to get decent performance out of RAID 6 is to buy a big ass hardware RAID card with a hell of alot of Cache and a custom ASIC on-board for dual parity calculations. Last time I checked on RAID cards a couple years ago, they only made a single SATA RAID card that was all hardware based, and had a fat cache. So there's the added expense of SCSI. A couple thousand bucks for a good card. Yikes.

    Pretty neat, though. I'd never heard of RAID 6. I'd hate to feel the performance of software RAID 6, though.
     
  19. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    Yeah raid 6 is super expensive to get decent performance out of it, and there are very few manufactures who make it. I believe it is actually a proprietary standard. But hey, it can support 2 drives dying, which is always better then Raid 5 supporting only 1 drive dying.
     
  20. col_panic

    col_panic calm like a bomb Moderator

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    freebsd supports a lot of hardware and a line-by-line code review is done of openbsd for security. pick either. and if you ever have to recompile a kernel it is much faster and easier on bsd - modify a text file rather than go through 11ty billion options in xconfig.
     
  21. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    im sure you did; just to play with... :bsflag:

    now go back to your comp sci 10 course and learn how to bs on the internet, cause you failed there.
     
  22. CyberBullets

    CyberBullets I reach to the sky, and call out your name. If I c

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    hahaha pussy hurt on the interweb much. :o

    oh noes, your gonna post penny pics. I called you bs, you posted pics, and proved me wrong. now im gonna go write in my livejournal, listen to linkin park, find my teddy bear and sit in the corner crying. :rofl: :rofl:

    learn to lighten up.
     
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    col_panic calm like a bomb Moderator

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    :rofl: @ linkin park
     
  24. Peyomp

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    Raid! Fuck You! Raaaaaiiiid!
     

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