MMA Frank Trigg, Shogun, Ninja on Best Dam SPorts Show *vid*

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  1. FlyingNun

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    he cancels practice so often cus of this kinda crap :sad2:
     
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    Chechen, has he taught you guys any kinds of sweet stuff?
     
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    that sucks...does he at least give you advanced notice so you don't have to drive out there for nothing?
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    i have to call students and ask them what the word is
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    lots of takedowns and takedown defense. don't know if that would go under "sweet stuff" but it's cool having him watch me and give me tips here and there. I don't really like the groundwork for wrestling because most of it doesnt translate well for jiu jitsu. But I've definitely benefited from going to these practices.
     
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    does wrestling help with weight tranferring and balance?
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    sort of.. I can sweep wrestlers like crazy from my back. Even very good wrestlers if they aren't familiar with jiu jitsu.

    wrestling helps a lot with cardio because trying to put someone on their back while theyre sprawling on your head is freaking exhausting. and you have to be explosive a lot more compared to jiu jitsu. good wrestlers who come into jiu jitsu get submitted, but they don't typically gas out. Thats why wrestlers typically advance in the early stages of bjj much faster than other people. They have athleticism, an understanding of body control, and better balance than most people. But they don't teach you crap like how to defend a half-guard sweep in wrestling..
     
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    is sweeping something that trigg will incorporate into his teaching?
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    well in wrestling.. you want to get off your back. you dont have time to set up a sweep. its just a different game man. you know for wrestlers its the end of the match if they put me on my back for a while. but for me .. coming from a jiu jitsu mentality, being on my back means that THEY'RE in a lot of possible trouble. see what im saying?

    In a wrestling match vs a good wrestler I'd get killed. But in a jiu jitsu match vs a good wrestler who knows nothing about jiu jitsu, i can win easily.
     
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    ah, interesting...makes a lot of sense. you should be learning a decent amount about controlling your opponent though, right? :hs:
     
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    lol, the last kick he tried to use on arona.
    i love that kick, i use it to showoff to friends and girls, haha.
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    like i said.. the groundwork doesnt really help much for jiu jitsu. pinning = nothing in jiu jitsu
     
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    wouldn't it be helpful to at least control your opponent? how long are you gonna stick with it?
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    until their school year is over. so a few more months I guess.

    I mean.. if a guy doesnt know anything.. then yeah wrestling is great for controlling your opponent. but a lot of the pins put you in a hell of trouble against someone who knows jiu jitsu. wrestling style pins can get you crucifixed and you can also get your back taken easily. I mean against the average guy on the street or a wrestling match, theyre cool. But they're just not great to use for jiu jitsu or mma most of the time.
     
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    gotcha. kinda hard to apply your BJJ where it doesn't belong :hs:

    you should take some judo too then :o
     
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    Theres lots of super cheap judo places around here but we practice judo at bjj and it feels incredibly unnatural to me. Thats why I went with wrestling. :hs:
     
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    Yea, I'm much bigger on the wrestling style takedowns rather than judo even with gi.
     
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    They weren't very in sync.
     
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    Wrestling takedowns i think are more natural

    Both style of takedowns are incredibly effective but with judo it's more stop and start where with wrestling it's a constant flow.

    I think judo has a really hard learning curve at the beginning.
     

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