GUN Former Navy SEAL sentenced on firearms, drug charges

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    Former Navy SEAL sentenced on firearms, drug charges

    By DAVID MACAULAY | 247-7838
    3:05 PM EDT, July 2, 2008
    http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/southofjames/dp-local_sealsentenced_0703jul03,0,7770321.story
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    A former Navy SEAL who was found with a stockpile of weapons and steroids in his north Suffolk home late last year, has been sentenced to spend just over seven years in prison.

    Elbert Tillman Jr., 35, admitted in U.S. District Court in Norfolk in March to possessing firearms while using illegal steroids, and keeping unregistered explosives in his home.

    Tillman was sentenced on Wednesday to spend 87 months in prison for possession of firearms and ammunition by a person who is an unlawful user of a controlled substance and possession of firearms not registered to him in the National Firearm Registration and Transfer Record, by U.S. District Judge Henry Coke Morgan, Jr.

    When authorities searched Tillman's property in December, they discovered a weapons stockpile that included C-4 plastic explosives, detonators, a claymore mine, 2 1/2 pounds of C-4 packed with buckshot and used in ambushes, ceramic and smoke grenades, flash bangs or diversionary charges, 24 firearms and 31 ammunition cans filled with ammunition, according to court documents.

    The search also uncovered more than 200 vials and bottles of steroids and more than 900 steroid pills.

    Police were tipped off to the cache by Tillman's girlfriend. When the couple got into a dispute in Indiana, his girlfriend called police to tell them about the weapons kept at the Ferry Point Road home.

    Tillman initially pleaded not guilty in February to five federal charges, including unlawful storage of explosive material and possessing a controlled substance that would have added up to a maximum of 32 years in prison.

    Three of the charges were dropped, and he pleaded guilty to possession of firearms and ammunition while using illegal drugs, and possessing firearms not registered to him.
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    Think this was originally posted when he got busted. But just a friendly reminder never trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesnt die.
     
  2. hsmith

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    C4, claymores, unregistered NFA weapons

    yeah, not much sympathy here. if anything he got off extremely lightly
     
  3. THT

    THT The easy way is always mined

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    Authorities need to send those guns to me for proper disposal.
     
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    Sad thing is that they will probably be crushed by a steamroller in some anti-gun police demonstration. :(
     
  5. Invincible

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    A "tip" is considered a good enough cause to go search someone's house? If you catch someone on camcorder rolling through a stop and you get his face and plate, then that's a good enough evidence to have him charged with "disobey traffic control sign" ?
     
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    I think firearms and explosives are a slightly more pressing manner and completely unrelated to traffic infractions.
     
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    But the constitution does not change. Both matters are a violation of the law and whether or not the cops will use double standards aside, the amount of power they are able to exercise should be the same.

    Are cops able to execute search just based on what someone said? i.e. are you comfortably knowing "so and so said Liptonucf has hard drives full of pirated materials and RIAA asked cops to go search his house" should they be able to just do it?
     
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    I agree with the "don't trust things that bleed" comment.
     
  9. Liptonucf

    Liptonucf wee woo wee woo wee woo

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    Liptonucf wee woo wee woo wee woo

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    4th amend...The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


    Green v. State, 946 So.2d 558
    Fla.App.1.Dist.,2006
    Veracity and basis of knowledge are among the factors to be considered in assessing the reliability of an informant's information, for the purpose of determining whether an affidavit provides probable cause to issue a search warrant; a deficiency in one may be compensated for, in determining the overall reliability of the tip, by a strong showing as to the other, or by some other indicia of reliability. U.S.C.A. Const.Amend. 4.

    Vanslyke v. State, 936 So.2d 1218
    Fla.App.2.Dist.,2006
    Although information provided by a citizen-informant is ordinarily considered to be at the high end of the tip-reliability scale, a particular informant's veracity or reliability and his basis of knowledge must always be understood as relevant considerations in the totality-of-the-circumstances analysis that guides the determination of the reasonableness of reliance by the police on the information provided by the informant.


    that might answer your question about cops executing a search, OSU. this is Florida law but it seems to be pretty similar across the board.
     
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    Damn, I'd hate to be the cops who had to go in after him.....

    "Gentlemen, motherfuckin' rambo is sitting inside with a goodly selection of guns, explosives, and 'roids. His g/f hasn't slept with him in several days, and he's undoubtebly pissed about some serious buttne and his shrinking testicles . Who wants to go in first?"

    Fuck a whole bunch of that noise.
     
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    :bowdown::rofl:
     
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    Hearsay, while inadmissible as proof of guilt in court, was upheld to be grounds for probable cause in Draper v. United States.
     

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