How in the fuck are you able to be so accurate? I guess I should start off by saying I have had no 'formal' training, but have been shooting on and off for most of my 22 years of life. Though, I've really stepped up my game in the past 5-6 months. I try to go to the shooting range atleast 2x a week; more if I have time. I almost always take my P22 for cheap plinking, sometimes take my G23 (factory adjustable sights), and most recently, my new Bersa Thunder 380. I've come to find out that I do much better, accuracy-wise with sights that have small dots that are close together (is there a term for this?). But, anything past 25ft, and my accuracy is way off. By way off, I mean I am usually able to pull 6-8" groups at that distance. Anymore, and, well, it just gets worse. 15ft, I can pull off 3-4" groups. IMO, this isn't very good. I see some of you folks pulling 2" groups at 25 YARDS. How the hell do you do that? For one, I can't stay stable enough to do that. The slightest movement at that distance makes your shot 12-15" off target. And two, I can barely see the 10-ring at that distance, and I have 20/20 vision. The sight covers up most if not all of it. So, how are you doing it? Is it that I just suck? Not enough practice? Bad technique? Formal training usually required to be able to pull that kind of accuracy? My plan is to get signed up for some training come spring time. Tactical Defense Institute is based here in Ohio, and I've heard they're pretty good. From what I understand though, they teach you how to react to situations. I'm not so sure they help with accuracy, but, I could be wrong. Help out the sub-par accuracy folks. p.s. - I'll try to get to the range in the next few days to get some pics of targets for analysis.