Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by infinite loop, Oct 12, 2006.
is the little jump motion necessary or can you just muscle up the weight?
I try to do the little hop but don't always... so yeah.... I'd like to know.
i did em for the first time this week and it was basically a deadlift into the start of a push press position.
i felt like i was gonna lose balance if i did the hop (which is strange because i almost always a little hop when i do the push press)
Whenever I have seen an oly coach demonstrating the move, or a practiced lifter perform a lift like that (especially sub-maximal), they almost always have the small jump. Perhaps exerting maximal force on a sub-maximal load?
if you can muscle it up you arent using enough weight. i think the whole point of the exercise is to use your entire body to power it up
In most cases the weight is heavy enough to make jumping off the ground impossible.
If you want to practice the motion without weight, just try jumping as high as you can from a static position.
Yes, you should do the jump. You should never muscle up a power clean. If you're pulling correctly it should feel pretty natural. Or at least it did for me.
You shouldn't do a hop when doing push presses though.
Neither people asking the question are at the point where jumping is impossible/undesirable IIRC.
i'm sure timber is pushing a lot more weight than me. like i said, this was my first time diong them. i went with 155x10 and it just feels much more natural to muscle it up.
Not really (using more weight that is). Keeping it under 185lbs for the time being. Anything over and my form is shit.
Do you know anyone who understands what a proper clean looks like? If you pull properly, ie. not with the arms, then it should be pretty much impossible to muscle it up. I would spend some time, either at the beginning or end of your workout, practicing generating the power from the legs and back.
Don't expect to get them right the first time, or even the first month. They take time to get right.
sWEET. Power clean instructional video.
The motion of doing a clean is almost identicle to standing in place and jumping, so yes, you might jump a bit at the top. It's not right or wrong... but I do like the sound of my shoes hitting the ground when I come down
Do you think his feet spread too far apart when he caught the bar?
edit: in the very beginning
is that gladiator music? LOL
I don't think much of any of the technique used in the video, but yeah. When athletes don't jump to the full squat and only do power cleans, sometimes they spread the feet farther apart to get a little lower, as the weight gets heavier. I know I used to do it a little bit, before I got comfortable with the full squat clean.
If you're trying to achieve any athletic benefit from this exercise, I find it very helpful to use a load that requires your entire body to work in a coordinated fashion to clean the weight. The little hop is a part of the movement. as long as it's a little hop, not a jump, and you are landing in a balanced position, you're all set. If yuo're trying to "muscle up" the load, you are not getting the full range of benefits of this exercise, as it is meant to build muscular coordination and explosive power, not necessarily muscle size.
Excellent video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-858198997498491656&hl=en
i basically did a deadlift into a clean. i'm used to doing the clean and press.. that's pretty much what i did (sans press)
watch the video i posted, he goes into power clean form around 9 mins in
And by legs, you mean bouncing the bar off your quads on the way up, right?
i think i know what to try different next time.. thanks
Maybe I should have just posterior chain. Whatever. And for beginners I would not have them try to have to bar contact the quads yet, just focus on not pulling with the arms and keeping the bar close to the body.
cleans at a commercial or school gym = reverse curl with leg drive