for a bios update do i need a floppy?

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  1. Yodaman456

    Yodaman456 New Member

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    or can i use a cd? i don't have a floppy drive on my computer.
     
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    Depends on what you're flashing. For example, MSI Live Update allows you to flash your BIOS from Windows or a floppy disk, whereas my Leadtek 6600GT Extreme requires a floppy for a BIOS flash.

    As for whether a CD would work instead of a floppy: depends on how the update works. If it's just a couple of files that need to be run from DOS, no problem. If it will only extract to a 1.44 drive, then you might be hooped. I broke down and bought an external USB 1.44 drive for about $20 simply because of the hardware problems I've been running into lately, and it's been quite useful.
     
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    don't flash your bios.
     
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    i'm not, i'm going to get a technition to come to my house and figue out the problem, but i was just wondering, incase he did need to flash it, because i'm not going to do it i might mess it up.
     
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    ibnewthreadabouttechnicianbeingadumbassandfuckingsomethingup

    :run:
     
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    Huh? That's like saying "Don't update your drivers" or "Never patch your games!" Why wouldn't you want to flash a bios?
     
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    Yes, you can flash from a CD most of the time. You need a program like WinISO to take a floppy image (you can download boot images from the internet, google it) and make a bootable CD from it. Keep in mind you won't be able to backup the BIOS before flashing it, and if the program requires a backup before flashing (some do) it will fail.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    um, no, it is NOTHING like don't update drivers. You're obviously new to this :mamoru:
     
  9. keleko

    keleko yes, he is

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    you can even flash from USB device

    the advice to "never flash your bios" comes from a 'tard who screwed up his own one day, or simply heard that it will go wrong and assumes the worst

    so long as you don't lose power, you can't screw it up beyond being fixed
     
  10. keleko

    keleko yes, he is

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    wrong
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    :mamoru: wow you're so wrong.
     
  12. keleko

    keleko yes, he is

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    how so?

    be SPECIFIC, because obviously, you haven't been working with computers for very long:squint:
     
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    Really, you know of a way to write to a CD from DOS??
     
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    keleko yes, he is

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    who says you have to write to the cd?

    and, yes, ther are DOS level apps that will write to a cd
     
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    kid, I've got more man-hours in front of a computer than you've jacked off.

    I am not going to sit here and list every instance of a botched bios install... Search the fucking intraweb if you want to be an ignorant fuck.

    Needless to say, there is NO reason to even THINK about flashing your bios unless the new bios DIRECTLY addresses the EXACT problem that you're having.

    The bios provide the primary link between software and hardware... Thus, it is the most delicate. If you randomly flash the bios, you disrupt this relationship, and can end up with something that runs worse than before. Unless you NEED to flash, you shouldn't.
     
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    Is english your second language of something? The post asked if it was possible to flash a BIOS from CD, without a floppy. You CAN NOT WRITE TO A CD AS A DRIVE FROM DOS. Period. Most BIOS flash programs do not allow you to choose a path off of the device they run on (i.e. the CD) to store a backup file.
     
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    actually, but it would not be difficult to create a quick bootstrap that extracts the update to a ram drive and runs the update, where the backup is saved to the ramdrive, and then copied to a hdd, or any other recordable medium...

    but that is well beyond the capabilities of even an above-average oter. :mamoru:
     
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    keleko yes, he is

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    i agree with that statement, but you're still wrong on the rest

    so you've been dealing with computers since 1979?

    :bsflag:
     
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    keleko yes, he is

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    ramdisk, hdd, cdrw, usb - anything that CAN be written to and accessed in DOS is a viable medium

    do not tell me that something can't be done


    as said, 99.99% of the posters here are lucky to find the power switch, but it CAN be done
     
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    What are you not understanding here? You can not write to a CDR drive from DOS as a disk device. Example: you can NOT run Copy Con filename.txt from a CDR and have it work. Most BIOS flash programs that require you to use a floppy do not allow you to write to any other device than the one they are being run from. If you RUN IT FROM A CD THE PROGRAM WILL MOST LIKELY NOT ALLOW YOU TO CHOOSE ANOTHER DEVICE TO WRITE THE BACKUP FILE TO!
     
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    It would be pretty idiotic to run a BIOS flash from a RAM drive.
     
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    Dont alot of the new mobo's comes with dual bios and programs that make flashing easy as fuck?
     
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    why? MOST bios flashes copy the update to RAM first, anyway.
     
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    keleko yes, he is

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    ah yes, you have the deaded still-thinking-like-a-total-n00b syndrome

    you're thinking that you can't edit the the flash app (or make your own), or that you can't write your own script, or add your own files to the cdRW cd, or write to a usb/cdRW/ramdrive/hdd from "dos"

    and who the hell says it has to be in DOS anyway?
    plenty of live distros available, among other operating envrionments


    get out of the box and *thimk*, dammit
     
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    Most will allow you to flash from Windows now. Dual BIOS/onboard BIOS recovery only recently became popular (some boards had it but most didn't).
     

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