GUN Following Ft Dix terror plot NJ moves to make more bans

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  1. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Yeah since they were going to use AK's lets ban .50's :ugh2:

    New Jersey moves on .50 caliber gun ban following Dix arrests
    5/10/2007, 4:08 p.m. EDT
    By TOM HESTER Jr.
    The Associated Press

    TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey moved Thursday toward becoming the second state to outlaw the powerful .50 caliber rifle that critics contend could potentially be used in terrorist attacks.

    The guns, which resemble large hunting rifles, are accurate up to 1 1/2 miles and critics contend they could be used to penetrate an airliner or ignite chemical plants, rail tanks cars and refineries.

    California is the only state with a similar law.

    Legislation that would make New Jersey follow suit was released Thursday by an Assembly committee and can now be considered by the full Assembly.

    The ban is getting renewed attention after federal investigators this week announced they had foiled an alleged terrorist plot by six men who were planning to attack Fort Dix.

    "As unnerving as the Fort Dix terrorism plot was, it could have been all the more worse if the weapons of choice for alleged assailants had been .50 caliber assault guns instead of AK-47s," said Assemblyman Reed Gusciora, D-Mercer.

    The six men arrested Monday night allegedly tried to buy AK-47 assault weapons, M-16s and other weapons from a government informant.

    The bill is opposed by gun rights advocates who claim it would do nothing to stem gun violence.

    "Gun bans will not stop a criminal intent on doing harm, because the criminal mind will always find another tool," said Scott L. Bach, president of the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. "This feel-good legislation disarms only responsible citizens and does nothing to prevent crime."

    The bill would include .50-caliber weapons in the same law that bans explosive devices. Violators would face up to five years in prison and a fine up to $15,000. The proposal would exempt antique guns and traditional rifles that fire a single shot. It would also allow people who own a .50-caliber weapon before the law takes effect to keep their weapon.
     
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    How stupid can you get? That's like saying,"If this old lady were driving a school bus instead of a Lincoln Towncar, the accident would have been much worse." No shit, but it still didn't happen that way. School busses were not part of the incident at all. Just like .50 weapons have nothing to do with this event.
     
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    Common sense and politicians/legislators rarely go hand in hand.
     
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    Very true.
     
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    P7 You have something on your tongue, let me get that

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    Im out of here the 17th:hyper:
     
  7. t1h

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    :ugh: how many crimes have been convicted with .50's in the last 30 years? i mean i have never even heard of any.
     
  8. TL1000RSquid

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    I've heard of a few cases of felons being caught with them, but have yet to hear of one actually being used in a crime.
     
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    According to a .pdf I have on Gun Facts...

    "Fact: .50 caliber rifles have only been used in 18 crimes in the history of the United States."

    Reference for stat: General Accounting Office, "Weaponry: .50 Caliber Rifle Crime", Report no. OSI-99-15R, revised Oct. 21, 2001
     
  10. TL1000RSquid

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    Do they list them?
     
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    were those 18 crimes muskets? lol
     
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    I bet they all were, or maybe some old 500 NE Mag rifle, or some other antique rifle cartridge back in the late 1800s.
     
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    or even some redneck muzzle loader crime.
     
  14. t1h

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    http://archive.gao.gov/f0502/162586.pdf

    they list the crimes. no one killed by them. it was mostly illegal possession...people using false id's to purchase them.
     
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    My .pdf does not, but check out t1h's post above this one.

    Edit: And a big :bigthumb: to t1h for finding that report!
     
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    We should ban tanks too. Because, it could have been much worse if the assailants got a hold of an M1A, amirite?
     
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    Here's what the VPC had to say about the video of the "terrorists"
     
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    I want to get one of those one day... :mad: They better not put them on any ban lists
     
  19. vettefan52

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    keep banning shit mother fuckers, you are only going to start a war... one that i look forward to.
     
  20. PanzerAce

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    how damn stupid is it to basically go to war with people who have a shit load of guns?

    http://flashbunny.org/content/deepthoughts.html
     

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