*Flame suit on* Noob laptop question for ya'll

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  1. Hoss

    Hoss Nah, i had water yesterday

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    I bought a laptop from a coworker of mine here recently. Got a heck of a deal. Too good to be true deal if you know what im saying. Anyways, i acquired it and in the midst of our transaction he states to make sure im using a firewall if i get on the wireless network cuz apparently the guy who got the laptop can track my activity. He said this with a smile, so i dont know if he's being serious or what. Now im about as noob as a noob can get. So bare with me.

    My question is if i do a complete system restore to factory settings before i install any other programs would that delete any programs that were installed on the system to prevent any activity from occuring?

    Also i included a screen shot from my computer folder, whats up with all the $uninstall$ folders?
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    Im running xp pro right now but i may upgrade to vista later this week

    also what programs do i need to get, right now ive got AVG and of course spybot, adaware, spyware blaster...what are some good firewalls?
     
  2. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Those are windows update folders.

    If you reformat, it will remove any spyware that may have been on it.

    The programs you are using should be able to do a good scan of the computer.

    Before you run your scans, make sure you have hidden files and folders
    checked in your folder settings.

    Start > control panel > Folder options > view > select "show hidden files and folders > ok, and exit.

    As far as a firewall, just get Zonealarm and you'll be good to go.

    http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp
     
  3. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Oh, and make sure you turn off the windows firewall before you install zonealarm.

    In classic folder view:
    Start > control panel > network connections > click on local area connection
    to highlight > right click > properties > advanced >
    uncheck box for firewall.

    In common task folder settings:
    Start > control panel > network connections > click on local area connection
    to highlight > change settings of this connection > properties > advanced >
    uncheck box for firewall.
     
  4. Hoss

    Hoss Nah, i had water yesterday

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    i heart you. seriously though, thanks for the quick response

    im getting za now, thanks for the link
     
  5. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    yw :bigthumb:
     
  6. dorkultra

    dorkultra OT's resident crohns dude OT Supporter

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    goto run>type in msconfig and post a screenshot(s) of the last 2 tabs

    it will tell you what programs and services and excess crap is running in the background and booting at startup
     
  7. cmsurfer

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    Nothing is wrong with XP SP2's firewall. I have used ZA before and it was nothing but a headache.
     
  8. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Don't install ZoneAlarm. The Windows Firewall works fine. You will regret using ZA eventually.
     
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    If you do not show hidden files or folders, those folders will disappear.
     
  10. deusexaethera

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    I think (though I'm not positive, and I'm too lazy to check) that hidden files are fine, what he needs to hide are "Protected System Files".
     
  11. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I for sure don't get all the hate with Zonealarm.

    I've used it for years, and never had a problem with it.
     
  12. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    If you don't have hidden files and folders showing, you won't get rid
    of all the malware.
     
  13. deusexaethera

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    Have you ever tried to remove it?
     
  14. deusexaethera

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    Spyware scanners ignore the hidden and system flags because the scanners run in SYSTEM mode.
     
  15. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Yep. I've deleted all my anti-malware programs at one point or other
    to do troubleshooting. And Zonealarm went away peacefully each time.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Reading the article, it becomes clear that they tell you to "Show Hidden and System Files" so you, the user, can perform manual operations on those files. The scanners are unaffected.

    Just imagine if AVG or SAV -- or whatever your virus program is -- could only scan hidden files if you allowed it to! There would be no point in even having the option to hide files, and given most people's knowledge, their antivirus software would be completely ineffective because every Tom Dick and Harry who wrote viruses would just make them Hidden.

    EDIT: Oh, and the article is wrong about System Restore. You're supposed to turn that off BEFORE, not AFTER you scan for spyware -- many spywares and viruses will hide their installers inside the System Restore archives where they're safe, and then reinstall automatically from there. You MUST disable System Restore to get rid of all the archives, along with whatever spyware installers may be lurking within.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I don't run system restore, so I don't usually remember to mention that. :o
     

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