A&P First try at external flash

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  1. Creator

    Creator The Creator Has a Master Plan

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    Picked up a 580ex II, stand, umbrella, etc. The GF makes up for my shitty lighting.

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    Turns out you cant have the shutter higher than a 250th. Oops.

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    noodz? :x:

    2nd is Def. better than the first. What kind of triggers are you using?
     
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    if you want to use flash above the sync speed, enable high speed sync on the flash, but note the power drops considerably.
     
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    Not bad movie boy. Watch your focus though. Her eyes are not quite sharp in the second and third shot.
     
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    A PC cable which I really really hate. The thing falls out too easily. I'm ready for some pocket wizards :x:
     
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    Even with the standard PC cable?

    And when you say the power drops - does that mean that I can't fire at 1/1? Or 1/1 isnt really 1/1?
     
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    :wiggle:

    I was happy anything came out at all. I had just about every problem possible. But I learned a ton. More soon :)
     
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    It's not really 1/1. Since you're using a EX flash, especially something as sweet as a 580 EX II, you should really really look into purchasing a Canon off camera shoe cord 2 or newer.


    #2 looks really good. I would like it better without the tilt + rule of thirds.


    Lastly, that 50mm is actin sexy.
     
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    You mean the cable that goes onto the hot shoe then into the flash? A damn 2 footer cost $100! I might as well just save a bit more and get pocket wizards right?

    #2 was cropped a lot - it was originally full body. I dont like the angle at all but I liked the lighting so I used it.
     
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    Canon off camera shoe cord 2.


    That's the actual name of it, and you can find it for $40. The cord will not only extend the distance from the camera to the flash, it'll also allow you to control slaves and preserve ETTL II.


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    Sometimes you can find the cord used from BH for $40 shipped, but I guess they've ran out of them.

    Here's Amazon for 45: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Camera-...3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1211343803&sr=8-3
     
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    Can I not control slaves with the 580 connected via PC cord?
     
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    Hm, you're probably right.
     
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    That was a question :hsd:
     
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    yes, what happens is its actually emitting multiple flashes at a higher rate, so it cant emit as much power

    you can fire at 1/1, but the actual amount of power is less.
    the canon is $40 and theres a promaster version for a little less. This lets you use ettl. pocket wizards are manual only, so you would have to adjust the power by walking over to the flash.

    radiopoppers allow for both manual and ettl, and are cheaper than pocket wizards.

    there are some cheapo ones that work well enough for your needs for like $40. they are manual only and not a huge range, but enough for screwing around. Cactus and gadget infinity are makers of them.
     
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    sure, but its IR so it won't have a big range, needs line of sight, and is awful outdoors in the sun
     
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    I did some reading about the GI ones and it seems like they misfire a LOT.

    Im a total newb with this but with ETTL you can change flash setting directly on the camera??

    Is 'radiopooper' just lingo for cheapo units?
     
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    oh radiopopper is a brand eh ... seems like 360 for a transmitter and receiver though :hs:
     
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    ettl means the flash is metering for itself. you can adjust it up or down 3 stops to override it a bit, but cant control it fully like manual. Its great if you want an evenly lit photo or can't take the time to adjust it or the subject is moving alot.

    radiopoppers are a new brand
     
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    ETTL flashes, in short is the flash metering for 18% gray and bursting enough light for proper exposure.

    You can't change flash output on the camera itself. But you can change its sensitivity to the sensor via ISO or aperture.

    Radiopoppers(dowant) are probably the most elaborate system currently out there at the moment. They send IR signals to the slaves wirelessly without line of sight.


    Cheap units = GI/Gadget Infinity/Cactus Triggers/Poverty Wizards. They start out around $40 for the most basic set.
     
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    This is 27 and has the trans and receiver ...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Wireless-Flash-...hZ009QQcategoryZ64354QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

    Are you frikken kidding me? Thats almost what I paid for a damn cable.

    I might as well get that and one more receiver and ... I'm good to go with 2 external wireless flashes?? Is that it?

    Get the above and this
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Wireless-Flash-...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

    and im done?
     
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    They don't misfire as much as some people make it seem... At least mine don't :dunno: I've had only a couple misfires and it was because the batteries in my flash were nearly dead.


    As a side note, your girlfriend has amazing eyes :eek3:
     
  24. NOR*CAL

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    Bought mine here + 2 additional receivers:
    http://gadgetinfinity.com/product.php?productid=16766&cat=0&page=
    All for $80 shipped, if you just want 1 additional to control 2 flashes it should be $60 shipped.

    2 off camera flashes would be a good way to start(but seriously one flash is going to be a great way to learn, 2 is probably going to make the curve a bit more confusing). If you're not looking to spend a lot of $ for another flash, you can purchase a 285HV($100).

    Or, if you have some money, buy a 430ex to be controlled by the 530ex either on or off camera. But unless you're indoors, it's not always going to work.[
     
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    Yah Im doing more reading on these and seems like the second version of the GI aren't bad at all. I see no reason to NOT get these...

    She's a great girl :)
     

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