Firewire 400 drive faster for my Mini?

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  1. turbo91

    turbo91 New Member

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    Would a Firewire connected drive be faster than the internal laptop drive in my mini? I'm thinking of converting a 250GB Maxtor I have to be the system drive for the Mini...if it would provide a speed increase, why not?
     
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    it probably would be faster. Disk latency on an external, higher RPM drive is lower (a good thing), and firewire throughput is 50MB/sec theoretical max, which is in excess of most consumer drives sustained read / write speeds. I dunno if it is above burst read/write rates though :dunno:

    cliffs: it'll very likely be faster, especially if you just use the internal laptop drive to run the system and do read/write-intensive tasks on the external drive (video, audio editing, etc).
     
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    I have a LaCie 160GB that works great..and looks nice too.
    I beat the crap out of it every day for my video work and it never gives me any backtalk..and yes, its quite a bit quicker than the built in (handles more DV streams, etc).
     
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    I have the Lacie 160 as well. It speeds up boot time and program loading times on my Ti 667 DVI. Much nicer than my 4200 RPM internal drive.
     
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    Cool--so you use it as your boot drive?
     
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    I sure do. Tiger only takes about 23 seconds to load up and my computer is functional. Compared to when I use the internal drive it takes about 36 seconds or so.
     
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    the misinformation is strong in this thread, young jedi...


    A firewire drive will *NOT* be faster than your primary IDE drive.
     
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    :ugh: if the firsthand accounts weren't enough, you could read my original post to find out WHY it's faster...
     
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    as IcyHot4Life said, a 7200 RPM drive with a 50MB/s transfer certainly IS faster than my 4200 RPM ATA66 drive.
     
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    your logic is flawed, and I feel sorry for anyone that would believe you...

    there is NO FUCKING WAY that you will get a sustained 50MB/s through firewire... Simply will not happen. If you actually TESTED it, you'd see this.
     
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    ignorance is bliss. The problem is not the drive, but the firewire interface that you go through :mamoru:
     
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    I've already run benchmarks on my internal drive (in the mini) vs the drive in my external enclosure--the external enclosure beats it in all scores except random read/write...and it just barely loses out.

    Since you are just a fuck stick in general, welcome to my ignore list.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    oh, wow, I am so hurt :mamoru:

    Then I won't have to bother correcting your errors any more :run: Just try not to post at all, then you won't misinform everyone else :rofl:
     
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    :ugh: like I said in my original reply, latency across firewire will likely be suboptimal for short random (burst) drive activity; in these instances the laptop drive will likely win due to low bus latency across IDE.

    For sustained tasks, Firewire will undoubtedly be faster. Most ATA/133 disks cannot sustain FW's theoretical max. 50MB/sec in the first place; however given that Firewire does operate at an appreciable efficiency (approximate ~80%), you're bottleneck across the Firewire bus is on par with the maximum sustained read/write of your external disk (avg. for a 7200RPM disk is 40MB/sec, last time I checked the numbers). Laptop hard drives simply cannot pull these same sustained numbers.

    kthx, plz GTFO now. I could say more but you wouldn't understand anyway.
     
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    um, my laptop drive is a run-of-the-mill 5400rpm drive with 16mb buffer... You will not get 40MB/s out of a firewire drive... 25MB/s is more realistic. And a good notebook drive WILL exceed that.
     
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    what the fuck is your problem. There are people here with both a mini and an external drive, TELLING YOU that they have tested both, with the result that the external drive is faster. What else do you need to hear? :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

    Furthermore, the issue here is not a "good" notebook drive, it's whether an external drive is faster than the stock mini drive. Experimental (and anecdotal) evidence shows that the answer is yes. Your arguing is not even answering the thread starter's question.

    I'm out, don't bother replying.
     
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    okay :rolleyes:
     
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    Well--I cloned my startup disk last night...rebooted this morning, and holy shit! It's a totally different machine. Very impressive speed gains... sweeeet :)
     
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    :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: outstanding
     
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    :coold: glad it worked out for you
     
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    :mamoru:

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    I came in just now so I could post that very article :o

    awesome :)
     

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