Well they are. I know what you are thinking. Actually I know what you are really thinking, 'Didn't I just close this jackasses thread?'. Don't sweat it. No subject in the realm of software gets me as frustrated and riled up as PC backup software does. I didn't expect anyone to send me keys or anything, I was just trying to exclaim, 'Hey if you think I am stupid and simply can't make this work put your money where your mouth is!'. I did it poorly. Anyways. I have a challenge that couldn't be simpler. On my laptop is 1 hard drive, 2 partitions. On one partition is Vista (I think it is the first partition, it includes the boot sector) on the 2nd is XP. After more then a year I have decided that I want to keep XP on the laptop, Vista didn't cut the mustard for the laptop. I want to whipe the entire hard drive clean. Kill both partitions, create 1 partition (NTFS) that is the entire hard drive and overlay the XP image on it. I am willing to accept that I will need to do an intial install of XP on the laptop and then lay the image overtop of that to insure it works properly. That is the challenge. As it stands, I spent a couple days last week burning dual layer DVD's using Acronis Home V10. (yes it is a fully legal copy of Home V10, I bought it a couple of years ago). Here is what I would do. I would boot up Vista. I would install the Acronis client on Vista, I would reboot into Vista again and tell it to do a full backup of the XP partition. After a random number of discs the application would freeze up and stop running. I would reboot and try again from the beginning. Eventually I got pissed off at it, uninstalled it and installed Nero 8 and tried its backup software. I got a couple discs into that and got a bad burn and had to start over from the beginning. Which leads me to something I don't understand about all backup software. Why is it that when you get a bad burn of 1 DVD you have to reburn the entire set? Why can't it just put up a message that says, 'Oh bad disc, put in a new one and we will start from the beginning of the bad disc.? Seems like such a simple thing. Anyways, throw me your best ideas. What software do you love? Do you think I am doing something intrinsically wrong? I'll put up with you calling me an idiot if you spell out WHY I was an idiot?