MMA fighters.. how much can you lift?

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  1. SquirtRussel

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    ive taken some time off from muay thai to focus on gaining strength but im pretty frustrated with the results

    6'3'' 195ish lbs (alot of water, could easily drop to 185 in a couple days)
    bench:225x1
    squat:365x1
    dead:365x1

    im wondering if i should just stop wasting time and go back to muay thai, where ill probably lose my gained weight and strength, when i was lifting and doing muay thai i wasnt really making any gains.

    so tell me about yourselves :hsd:
     
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    How often were you doing Muay Thai?

    I would think that if you ate and lifted heavy on your off days you would still put on LBM :dunno:
     
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    this was my schedule 6-8 weeks ago:

    m-bjj/lift
    t-muay thai/yoga
    w-bjj/lift
    th-muay thai/yoga
    f-bjj/lift

    i think ill just try maybe going back to this schedule? :dunno:

    i miss martial arts too much, but i remember that when i was on that schedule i was so tired and my lifts showed that.

    it was either lift before bjj and get tapped out 11ty times, or bjj first then lift pussy weight.

    :hs: thanks for any advice
     
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    When I'm not prepping for a tourney I get in 4-5 workouts a week.
     
  5. SquirtRussel

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    height, weight? b/s/d?

    im curious as to how strong you all are, i feel so weak
     
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    I haven't maxed out anything in a long time...Last time I maxed bench was a few years ago in high school. I was about 5'8" and 119 (my wrestling weight class) and put up 225 once. Man did I have to cut alot of weight.
     
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    I believe lifting will help in power and strength.. But if you are trying to put on mass with that much cardio, its a loosing battle, and its easy to get demorilized... Im in the same boat :)
     
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    The only possible way I could see you getting any gains with a routine like that is my eating. A LOT.
     
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    1. subtract one day of bjj or muay thai to dedicate to lifting.
    2. take off two days of 'pussy' lifting & incorporate saturday for a heavy lift day.


    or

    m-bjj/med chest workout (bb/db bench, bb/dbncline, flys, bent over row, maybe curls)
    t-muay thai/yoga
    w-bjj/ light lift day (pullups 4 setsx12max, dips 4setsx12, light goodmornings, maybe shoulder press)
    th-muay thai/med-heavy legs (med/heavy squat 5x5, leg press) not sure how your legs feel after your muay thai workout.
    fr-bjj/rest
    sat-Heavy Lift (bench, DL, if you couldnt do heavy squat thursday try it out here)

    either way, your schedule is gonna require alot of carbs/protein to keep your energy levels where they should be. :wiggle:

    oh yeah, & youre also gonna need alot of patience, you might only be adding +5lbs to your lifts maybe once every 2-4 weeks. But hey, as long as your gaining. :bigthumb:
     
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    :werd: right now im eating like 5k a day, with that itd need to be alot, much more than my poor ass can afford.... it is indeed a hard battle gaining strength while on that routine...
     
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    good advice, thx
     
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    :eek3:
     
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    I'm 6'3" 185lbs
    I've never really maxed on bench but I rep about 175
    I maxed squat at 285 a month or so ago but have not been lifting so It's gone down
    my dl sucks cuz I have a perpetually hurt back, but I've maxed in the 200 neighborhood

    I've only really gotten any max lift strength in the last year or so. Never lifted weights before that.

    I'm gonna spend the next month concentrating on hypertrophy to put on a little more mass, then the next month I will be doing explosive power stuff.
     
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    :cool: i was hoping you would post
     
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    nah I suck don't listen to me
     
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    oh btw to answer your thread title question...

    Bench-185x3, 200x1, failed on 225
    Squat-230x5 (never tried anything heavier)
    Deadlift-240x5 (again, havent tried anything heavier)

    5'10" 170lbs

    but i cant fight/train, until i get insurance again :wtc:
    4 more weeks! :run:
     
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    from what i remember from f&n pics you were pretty jacked :dunno: werent you like 205 before?
     
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    i guess the much more important and related question is how much does maximal strength and weight training matter in MMA?
     
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    from another thread in f&n:

    This is a great question with a funny answer. Although many of the top MMA guys are jacked out of their heads today, most of the ones I have been around (and the number is getting to be a lot) you would never really be impressed with the overall numbers because that is not their focus.

    I have had our guys up to the 315 range, but most are not close to that.
    They have a joke here. Rodrigo Gracie, who maybe gets 225 bench and 300 squat, jokes and says, wow if you bench a lot, you should do MMA, you'll do great.

    Of Course, it is all a joke, because he will rip off all of their heads.

    It is weird because I lift more than all of them, but when I train with them, they are ten times as strong as me on the mat. That is what I consider functional and technical strength.
     
  21. Skeletor

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    I don't lift, but I can guarantee that bag work and calisthenics will add a lot more to your striking than having a higher 1RM for bench/squat/dead will.
     
  22. Maestro Nobones

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    this was covered in another f&n thread, something about explosive poser having a lot more to do with MMA than max powerlifting movements. I personally feel that training all this stuff has it's place...

    and no I'm not jacked, I only got up to 195 when I bulked and I'm a naturally skinny dude. :dunno:
     
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    heheheh, time for the small guy to put in some input :x:

    M-lift (bench day), run (4-5 miles), 3 hrs BJJ, 1 hr conditioning (bodysquats, pushups, handstand pushups, a lot of bodyweight stuff)
    T-Submission wrestling 1-2 hrs
    W-lift (deadlift day), run (HITT), 3 hours BJJ
    TR-Submission wrestling 1-2 hrs
    F-Lift(squat day), 2 hours BJJ, 1 hr conditioning

    The reasons why I do bench on mon. and DL on weds is because I run on those days also, I don't run on Fridays because I do squats/legs. I noticed when I lift on my BJJ days, my muscles really don't feel that sore or fatigued, I really don't know why. I mean there are certain instances where I feel like I could've performed a bit better if I didn't lift that day, especially when I do squats that day and we're practice takedowns but nothin too major.

    Then again, it could be my workout routine which is rather short compared to most but it gets the job done (B-160x1 DL-300x1 S-225x5).
     
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    yeah i agree, i know that my striking power, speed, and endurance are all much less than they were a couple months ago, and that i need to get back to the training. yet i do feel alot more dominant in bjj when ive been lifting... honestly i think im worrying too much about weights and numbers, im a fighter, not a weightlifter, i need to remind myself of that sometimes, i think im going to say fuck it to this weight gain/strength gain period and get back to training.

    :hs: :dunno:
     
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    looks like a good routine
     

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