GUN FFL v.How Do You Get One?

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  1. PUREVIL

    PUREVIL More Money Than Brains Croo

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    What are the steps, costs, problems, requirements, etc. To obtain a FFL?

    For the record Im dual citizen and I was born and raised in the states, I just live in canada. Thanks.
     
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    i think you actually have to have a store
     
  3. Goat

    Goat That crack is really moreish

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    That's what I've been told, they supposedly started cracking down in people that were operating as just a hobby.
     
  4. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Yeah thats what I heard too, not allowing you to run a bussiness out of your home anymore atleast for new applicants. Besides the store front I think its 2 or 3 grand worth of fees? Not sure on that, and a clean background check.
     
  5. PUREVIL

    PUREVIL More Money Than Brains Croo

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    Wow 2 to 3Gs! OK forget that hahahaha. The only time I've had to deal with an FFL he was a photographer by trade so I thought that was odd. Plus he drove a rusty shit box S10 so I didn't think it could/would cost that much for a license. Well I thought I'd ask anyways.
     
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    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    I'm not 100% on the total fees just thought I remembered reading that it was a couple grand somewhere, all the relavent info should be up on the ATF website. I think having to have the store front is worse then the fee's, if it was just the fees it'de be tempting to get one just to do transfers and some internet sales from home.
     
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    Sooo, no ffl for home?
     
  8. EvilSS

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    No, the brick and mortar FFL's helped push to get the rules changed a while back to eliminate "kitchen table" dealers. Imagine if you are a gun nut being able to buy wholesale and receive out-of-state transfers!

    I'm sure the ATF wasn't exactly against the idea either.
     
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    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    I imagine thats what heavens like
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    Actually you can have a FFL and a home based business, your home just has to be in an area thats zoned to allow your business. If the city you live in is fine with it, the ATF will be fine with it. Alot of people didn't have proper zoning however and were denied/shutdown, hence the "no home ffl" rumor.
     
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    yup, also, you have to be able to show that you are actually conducting a real business and not just getting the FFL to make things easier for you.
     
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    Hrm. I thought there was more to it than that.

    Hrmmmm... I may have to look into this again.
     
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    damn it... now I'm curious.
     
  14. Bigsnake

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    I think the ATFs webpage would be a good start to find this information...
     
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    striker754 Chillin

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    Wouldn't be worth it, I dont think. Too much legal bs. ATF inspections, keeping paperwork for 20 years. Find a place that does cheap transfers.

    1 dollar transfer > *
     
  16. ShackleMeNot

    ShackleMeNot MINDSET

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    The gun business is a tough business to be in. Unless you have plenty of money to start up you aren't going to make much back on your investment.
     
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    Cheapest I can find is $15 a transfer :wtc:
     
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    striker754 Chillin

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    That sucks. I have a place that does it for a dollar and another place that does it for 5.
     
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    The range I just joined wants $50 for transfers for non-members, or $40 for members. I'll keep paying $20 at the pawnshops I think.

    Anyway you need the zoning, plus you need all the local business licenses and things. This should tell you more http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=70
     
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    Jeez, you guys get raped on transfer fees. Do they charge you a transfer fee when you buy the gun from them too? :rofl:
     
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    Okay so the local range is $15 an hour for non members or $5 an hour for members. Membership is $150 a year, or free with the purchase of a gun. I've been wanting a knock-around .22 pistol so decided to buy one. I though the s&w 22a would be good. They're like $180 new online. The asshole had like $315 on their price tag and wouldn't budge at all. I did the math and it still came out like $25 cheaper than buying a membership and the gun online so I went with it. When I went to checkout they charged me an additional $2 for the nics call-in fee. So yes, I do get nickle and dimed for at least 1 shop.
     
  22. PUREVIL

    PUREVIL More Money Than Brains Croo

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    So can it be any business though? Not even if its gun related?
     
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    Ya thats because any joe schmo can build an ar upper for anyone and ship it across state lines. any ffl can sell already built receivers. There is no way getting around being a gun manufacturer if you want to make complete receivers.
     
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    07 FFL (manufacturer) is 150 for 3 years
    01 (dealer) is 200 for 3 years
     

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