MMA Fedor's performance

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  1. Sammo

    Sammo New Member

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    Almost submitted by Mark Hunt!

    He would have been beat by Cro Cop, Nog, Barnett and even Tim Sylvia if he was fighting any of those guys instead. If he has another performance like this you could probably end up making the argument that Cro Cop is #1 now.
     
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    Hunt beat Cro Cop not too long ago.
     
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    Dont forget, Hunt was also using a weight advantage to lay on top of him, but wasnt doing anything. And that sub attempt wasnt all that close
     
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    Cro Cop had a messed up ankle and that was a questionable decision. I see your poin though.
     
  5. HouseLing

    HouseLing When masturbations lost its fun you'r fucking lazy

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    yeah, its hard to shift that much weight, even if your better.
     
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    It's not like fedors' never been in trouble before, he had moments like this in a few fights before. Like fujita, and randleman. Does that take away from his wins? I don't think so, if anything it should add to them b/c it shows he can come back from the face of adversity and finish a fight.
     
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    The difference is that Randleman is an incredible wrestler (multiple NCAA champion) which explains the suplex and Fujita is known to hit very hard. Mark Hunt is NOT a submission/takedown expert.
     
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    True.
     
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    Hunt really did suprise me with his poise on the ground though. I give him props for his fight.
     
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    having not seen it, but having seen his performance against Barnett in the OWGP one would assume Hunt working long and hard on the ground game after that fight.
     
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    I watched the fight he seemed a little off, but really when you have such a big guy laying on you, its hard to move, also to take such a large guy down is also not easy. From what it looked like he didnt want to slug with him for too long (who would his head is concrete) and he was trying to take him down, just a bit of bad luck that he ended up on the bottom.
     
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    broken big toe

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  13. Skeletor

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    that's a bold statement with no real sense behind it. Every fighter is different in every fight.

    Yeah though, Fedor's performance wasn't as good as usual, but you have to keep in mind, Hunt is an incredible striker, that's why he's in pride. On the ground, his fat ass can just lean on a dude and fuck his game up from oxygen deficiency because he's putting too much weight on their chest to allow them to breathe properly. Fedor is still on top of his game, afterall, he beat Hunt and didn't get submitted EVEN THOUGH he was .0000001 inches from getting submitted.
     
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    must we all remember though, before this fight in the last 12 months all fedor did was let coleman go into the 2nd round.:mamoru: He MIGHT of had a little bit of ring rust:dunno:
     
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    McClane Who Killed Marilyn?

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    Hunt fought great, but I really didn't think the subs were as close to actually being converted as people want to believe. I was still screaming as I watched though. :noes:
     
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    sure it's possible for crocop and others to win against fedor, they are world class best of the best fighters who could beat anyone on any given night (even though they haven't managed to beat fedor yet so why do people keep saying shit like this) but seriously were you serious when you put the goofy bastard tim sylvia on this list? including that goofy bastards name on a list with mirko and discussing fedor is just wrong imo
     
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    That would be the case, but now that Cro Cop went to the UFC, it won't be as easy
     
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    Okay, like I said before Hunt isn't an exceptional submission artist, weight aside...:hsugh:. It was a bad performance, plain and simple...a bad performance against the guys I listed equals a loss unless they are having a bad performance as well.
     
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    In my opinion, what defines a great champion is his ability to keep composure and make the necessary adjustments when in a tough spot. Fedor did what he needed to do to nullify the kimura attempt, then got back on his feet and nailed the twist takedown. You could argue the same thing about the guillotine that Barnett caught Nog in. Most other fighters would've tapped. No one is perfect, and if Fedor dominated every opponent with flawless victories, then I'd question the level of talent Pride was throwing at him.
     
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    lol tim sylvia.
     
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    Yeah but Hunt didn't take him down, he just escaped an armbar and ended up in side control. And he wasn't even close to submitting him...look at how easily Fedor defended it. Props to Hunt for an incredible performance, but I don't think Fedor was ever in significant danger. He underestimated Hunt a little and it showed in his performance. That armbar was not Fedor-quality, if it was the fight would have been over just like that.
     
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    And another thing. I think Fedor finished with a Kimura just to prove a point. "Oh, is this what you were trying to do?":mamoru:
     
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    ok i just watched this shit this thread is a complete exageration of how close the sub was. that armbar was in the corner with not much space to maneuver. it was shitty and loose. it didnt take fedor long to regain control. a few surprises from the grappling game of hunt, but what do you expect he would train in now? fedor took him down easily
     
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    Weight aside? 60 lbs isnt exactly something you just dont look at.
     
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    Hunt should have just stepped over to the north-south position with Fedor to have a better chance of pulling off the submission. Refer to Diaz vs. Neer. It wasn't really close, but it was close for Hunt on Fedor.

    By the way, the first time Hunt was in side control was because of a failed armbar. The second time he was in side control was because he botched one of Fedor's takedowns and ended up close to submitting him.
     

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