Excessive protein?

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  1. DTR rex

    DTR rex New Member

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    I know that typically your body only uses/needs 35-40g's of protein per meal (assuming you eat ~ 5 meal a day) but I also know that after working out is when your body requires the most protein.

    Generally, immediately after a workout I down 2 scoops of whey (50g's protein) and then about 30-45min later (time it takes to cook) I eat a meal which usually has about 50g's of protein. Is this too much protein for my body to efficiently use and is some of it going to waste?
    I was thinking about cutting my shake back by 1 scoop if 100g's is too much within an hour or so after working out.

    Only reason I care is that protein is not cheap and I if my body is not using all of that to its full advantage then I will cut back by a scoop.
     
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    id worry about too little protein not too much protein
     
  3. TZ

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    yes i agree
     
  4. Marix

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    Jesus, do you guys actually READ what people say?? He's worried about the cost, and that's fair enough.

    The question you need to ask is how much do you weigh and how much lean body mass do you have? Base your protein requirements around that, rather than "40g per meal x number of meals." Everyone has different requirements - I'm sure Pur needs more protein than me or you for example.

    To answer your question simply, there is no limit to how much protein your body can use. Whatever protein you eat WILL be digested and WILL be used. However, only a small amount will be used for muscle growth. There's no real way to control this other than steroids to increase protein synthesis.
     
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    no, you don't NEED 100g's. if you must cut back 1 scoop for $ purposes then do so, i'm sure it wont make too big of a difference.

    the more the better IMO, though.
     
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    I think what you are doing is fine and I wouldn't change it.
     
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    i get 1.5g protein per lb of bodyweight a day and i don't think it's excessive.
     
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    Like Marix said it's the cost ts is concerned about which I can sympathize with. I don't want to have to come out of retirement.;)
     
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    well he doesnt need to be getting his protein from whey.. chicken is cheap. eat more chicken :)

    timber, you ever come down to Florida?
     
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    Haven't been down there in probably 4 years....
     
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    i think its time.
     
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    Agreed... I would follow the 1-1.5g per BW.. if what you are consuming now is too excessive, then cut back - but protein is used, whether its muscle growth or as energy; it's never wasted.
     
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    Actually, excess anything is going to go to fat, or waste :o

    DTR- what does your overall daily protein intake look like? I'd say you could cut back to one scoop after your workout, certainly, since you're eating a real meal within an hour after the shake.
     
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    y1997 Made in the U.S.S.R.

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    Mine is just under 300g's a day and I dont see it going to fat. :hsughno:
     
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    That also depends on what your TOTAL calories are.

    Your body will always digest protein and will always use it.. but like I said, you can't control how much goes into muscle, fat or is turned into glucose unless you use drugs.
     
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    Well, weight lifting increases both protein synthesis and protein breakdown.
     
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    Considering I train 2 times a day...
     
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    lol, well okay.. but I thought that since this is F&N, lifting weights was an assumed fact :mamoru:
     
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    Alright here is a bit more info.

    I am asking this question for two reasons:

    1) I am a student and protein is not exactly cheap. If those 2 scoops and a 60g protein filled meal a 30min later are all going towards muscle growth/development then I am fine with that. However, if it is going to waste and being burned as basic energy that I could get from carbs or other cals then I would prefer not to waste the protein.

    2) Protein that is not used will turn to fat. I do not want excessive protein being stored as fat.

    I am not as much concerned with my daily protein intake, but more-so with just taking in 100g's all within an hour or so after finishing my workout.

    And for those of you saying to get my protein elsewhere to save money.... I weigh 220lbs and I am only 5' 8.5" so I have a decent amount of mass on me. However, I do not want a really high cal diet so taking in 250g's of protein on a 2500 cal diet without whey is rather hard.
     
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    Average day goes like this:

    Breakfast = 45g's

    pre-workout shake = 20g's

    post-workout shake = 50g's

    Post workout meal = 60g's
    (post workout shake and meal both happen within an hour or so)

    Snack = 15g's

    Dinner = 40g's

    Snack = 15g's

    ~ 245g's. This is of course on a restricted cal diet. When taking in more cals I can hit 300g's.

    5' 8.5" @ 220lbs
     
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    Sounds like a solid setup to me. If you wanne decrease the post workout shake I would drop it 1.5 scoops instead of 2.

    Also, personally I like to have at least 20-30 grms of some kind of Casein for my night snack.

    Cheers


    PS Just noticed.....5'8" @ 220lbs? Damn, got pics?
     
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    Agreed.. looks good to me as well?
     
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