Everyone makes a big deal about the SR20DET and the RB26DETT...

Discussion in 'OT Driven' started by Buck-O, Nov 24, 2003.

  1. Buck-O

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    ...and how much better they are then the QR25DE and the VQ35DE.

    But face the facts, the SR20DET, and the RB25DETT are worthless, and obsolete.

    There are only two old school engines worth giving a damn about.

    The 4A-GE
    And the 3S-GTE


    Both race proven for over 15 years, and both STILL used today virtually unchanged.

    Further proving that Toyota > *.* > Nissan > Shit > Honduh

    Face the facts.
     
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    power > no power
     
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    The RB26 and the SR20 have both been around for some time and are a "prefered" powerplant for the tuners. The other engines you mentioned are either too new or have never really been exploited.

    Just my .02 cents


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    this post is so fucking gay i dont even think hisxlnc needs to post shit :o
     
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    3s-gte > *

    :werd:
     
  7. Buck-O

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    the 4G63's reign came long after the 3S-GTE was already winning World Rally titles in the Celica GT-4. And it wasnt untill the EVO-IV that the 4G63 was really worth a damn.

    3S-GTE is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4G63
     
  8. Dnepr

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    GT4 Celica = my :drool: car.

    :hs: I :love: that machine. After having 2 toyotas, 1 celica, with 5s-fe and 3s-ge I want to get my little dirty hands on GT4 :hs:
     
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    No. :greddy:


    Fuck no. :weak:
     
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    The 4A-GE and 3S-GTE are definitely great engines. I wouldn't say that the 3S-GTE is significantly better or worse than an SR20DET. Similar displacement, similar power output. Both can put out upwards of 450-500HP on stock bottom ends. The RB26DETT may be discontinued, but I would not consider it a worthless engine. Most manufacturers have one or two engines that stand out above the rest, and all have their benefits and drawbacks. The RB and SR series engines have had many years of use, including racing applications (which is how the RB originated).
     
  11. Buck-O

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    9 years still isnt as long as 15.

    You cant argue the sucess of the 3S-GTE and the 4A-GE.

    3S-GTE, up untill this year, was the engine of choice for the TRD JGTC Supra's. And the 4A-GE is STILL used in the Toyota Atlantic series as the spec engine.

    Not to mention the 3S-GTE's undieing reliability in the WRC.

    The SR20 was really only ever used inthe Silvia...and even then, not to a real big potential in racing.

    Toyota > *.*
     
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    :werd: x infinity.
     
  13. Buck-O

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    The RB originated in a tractor, along with its seconed cousin the 2JZ-GTE.
     
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    It was used in the Primera in BTCC. In the Pulsar GTi-R and Bluebird in numerous rallys.
     
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    Ummm, ok
     
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    The fuck?
     
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    Worst thread ever.

    I love how the QR and VQ series engines are all of two years old and everyone has decided they are crappy. :wtf: I'm sure the first application of the SR20 wasn't it's shining moment. Look at the way the industry is starting to explore the VQ35 and QR25 engines. They'll shine. It's well known that the QR head flows better than the SR's and that it's top end is just as strong. The stock engine has been known to handle up to 260 HP at the wheels reliably already.
     
  19. Buck-O

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    The Primera had limited success.
    And the Pulsar, Sunny, and Bluebird never saw much success out of the UK in feeder series events in Formula-2 and Group-A.

    Where as the 3S-GTE was used with MUCH success in the ST-165, ST-185, ST-205, and later on in the Corolla WRcar.

    And the 3S-GTE while no longer used in the JGTC Supra, is still being developed for the GT300 Toyota MRS.
     
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    the KA24 is a better engine than the QR25
    it just needs a change to lower compression pistons and a turbo it produces alot of HP n torque
    Iron>>> aluminum most of the time
    the V6 twin Turbo is known to be a better engine than the RB so u're not saying anything new

    CA18DET>>>>>>> SR20DET
     
  21. Buck-O

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    Yes, tractors. As in farm implements.

    As in why else would Japan build a narrow width inline 6 engine.
    The designs that Nissan and Toyota used where part of the rebuild process for industry in post war japan.

    Look at your history. Both Toyota and Nissan built tractors, both with in-line 6 cylinger engines. Of which, oddly enough, where built by many of the same machines that built the new RB's and 2JZ's.

    The fact that you dont know this little factoid kills your argument.
     
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    but, while we're on the subject.... My carbed 22R > * 4cyl :ugh:
     
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    :ugh:
    What
    the
    fuck.
    :ugh:
     
  24. Buck-O

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    So where is the Galant VR-4's world rally manufatures title, or drivers title...?
    Oh, thats right, Mitsubishi never won one untill they had the Lancer and Tommi Makinen.

    Meanwhile, while the EVO was being developed, Toyota did both in the ST-185.
     
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    How does not knowing obscure facts about the history of an engine kill an argument?
     

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