Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Socrates, Jan 13, 2006.
Are they worth the money? Do they help?
I haven't since I was in my teens. I probably should, considering I have a whole new set of (completely unrelated) problems now.
Back then, mine was a huge help. Recently I thought about writing her a letter thanking her for helping me so much.
I agree with annie. If you've ever read "1984" there is a part where the guy is getting brainwashed, and he realizes he can't fight the guy doing the brainwashing becuase the guy brainwashing knows everything the guy knows, plus a whooole lot more. I'm not sure if I explained that analogy to make it as powerful as it was to me...but basically therapists are awesome. Just be ok with it if you don't like the first one you get, I have gone to 2 before I found one I really connected with.
im currently seeing one now to deal with my depression. its been amazing so far. well worth the money i think. not only has my therapist summed me up in one meeting, but she's made me see alot of things already and ive only had two sessions so far. im slowly becoming the person i want to be. im moving out of house, gone on a holiday that i saved up for, and ive got a job interview in a week. i think therapists are amazing and if you need the help go get it. if youre afraid, dont be. it can be a life changing event. i strongly recommend it. let me know how it goes, and good luck!
ive also found that if you cant afford it, the people on this forum are amazing when it comes to opinions about troubles in your life. ive come here twice already, and people have steered me in the right direction which i am grateful for.
Just realized I made a thread with the same question last night. I deleted it, sorry about that guys. Thanks Peyomp for the help in the other thread.
VERY good point. The first one I went to did not understand my problems and, in turn, I could not open up to her... On my first visit she was overly harsh... It wasn't just that she was blunt - it was that she had no overview of the situation, yet still judged it based on her typical patients.
The first one may not always work out.
I have too, I have seen many of them. I am only 18, but I have already been to 4 or 5, and over a year and a half of therapeutic boarding school... Truth is, once I realized what it could do for me, it changed my life. 2 years ago I was addicted to crack, cocaine, heroin, valium and xanax... and now I am going to college to major in business, and get an MBA. It only works as much as you let it work, and you have to like who your seeing as well, or it can only be half as useful.
I saw one but she was a dolt, she was better off dealing with 19 y/os who weighed 110 and thought they were fat. That's ok if that's your problem, but she wasn't really ready to deal with someone who was either constantly depressed or fucking manic most of the time.
I should go find another to deal with my anger problems though. People fucking never cease to piss me off.
Did the ouch route...wasn't impressed. Saw a shrink on Wendesdays and a neuropsychologist on Fridays. I liked the psychologist, she was a woman and could relate to "some" stuff, but on issues she's say you better ask your psychiatrist that. Ya right. I'd ask him, and he'd just absent-mindedly say "Hmm...we should increase your medication." We NEVER, EVER discuss issues, He just dispenses pharmacy. Saw a therapist for awhile, her answer was deep breaths and shoes. Went to group for a bit, imagine sitting there with a bunch of crackheads (I do not do drugs), and other assorted "really out there" people-no one could relate to me, or me to them. So, now I just go see my shrink, get my prescription, (I am in and out of his office in 10 minutes) and try to figure out things as best I can.
I hear ya. But in my case, the NP that I see for my Rx is about the most theraputic of anyone else have seen. But she WILL actually discuss issues with me.
I just did a double take of that. WTF? I should probably not find that funny because it seemed to be not what you needed, but, deep breaths and shoes? What do you think she meant by shoes? The breathing I GET. I am not clear on the shoes.
I have...from age 13-18 and then again briefly in my late twenties. They can help a lot in the short term...particuarly in feeling that you have someone objective/outside that you can confide in, and often they are helpful for pinpointing self-sabataging behaviour that you might not realize you're doing etc. However, in my opinion they aren't that helpful in the long-term (say longer than 6-12 months). Can be well worth it for the short term tho, to help you through the tougher periods.
It's essential that you trust them and they 'fit' you...as the others said, if you don't like one, move on to another. Also, if the only therapy they use is via a prescription pad, I'd find another.
The very first one I ever saw, wasn't my choice (hospital insurance program my parents used) and she was this cynical, cussing, chain smoking (before anti-smoking laws...) woman who looked more stressed out than me. Needless to say, she was ditched real fast. I think it's funny on hindsight tho because the thought of a therapist chain-smoking in front of a patient now is just...
In the past, up until a few months ago, virtually every therapist I saw told me I'd be better off doing some kind of self help program. LOL
The last therapists I saw (for myself, and for couples counseling) have been the only ones who didn't say that.
Just thought that was weird.
[FONT=arial,geneva]"I'll tell you what a psychiatrist does, man. They make you, like, get in touch with the emotions that you spend your life trying to avoid at all costs."
Therapy is a tough business. You're basically trying to rebuild someone psyche, to a greater or lesser degree depending on the person.
It takes a lot of wisdom in addition to fucking long years at school.
Younger therapists tend not to be very good at tackling the tough problems.
If you have a specific issue(s) ask to speak with someone who has a lot of experience dealing with those issues.
Therapists, like lawyers, are not all created equal. Just because you went to a therapist that was a little out of his league...don't give up. There are good ones out there.
If you're dissatisfied, get another therapist. Choosing a therapist isn't done by finding one that makes you feel "good". You get one with good credentials, good references, and a history of experience in dealing with your type of issues.
Now the fact that you never, ever talk about issues....could be nothing at all.
Ever think that maybe what YOU obsess about, is actually irrelevant to your healing process?
Consider this case history. Girl gets cheated on. Girl seeks therapy. Girl INSISTS on talking about the "other woman", about how she's not as pretty as her, not as smart as her, not this, not that.
The therapist refuses to indulge in this line of thought. Why? WHY??
Because it's not profitable. First, it's really irrelevant to this girl's healing process.
Second, that "other woman"...who cares if her hair was red, and he said he hated redheads. Again, interesting fact, but IRRELEVANT. Its a waste of the patient and therapist's time, plus money to go over insignificant details.
So once you have found a therapist that is 1) well qualified, 2) well recommended 3) well experienced....then TRUST THE PROCESS.
And yes, the process will feel shitty from time to time. VERY SHITTY.
You will be dredging up a lot of yucky emotional material. You may scream. You may storm out. You may loudly tell the therapist to fuck off. You may feel very unhappy. But keep with it. Trust the process.
Therapy is an experiential process. You cannot merely THINK your way out of the maze. You cannot merely chat away your ills on the internet.
Trust the process.
Why did you see a neuropsychologist ? Psychiatrist especially give medications because they're the only one that could prescribe you some, psychologists, psychotherapists and all you can imagine can't. The neuropsychologist might not want to get into talk-therapy because this isn't what they've mainly be trained for. They specialize in brain traumatisms that might affect cognitive functions and they have some tests to be able to determine what is the nature of the traumatism.
You should instead try to see a psychologist which is comfortable with the cognitivo-behavioral approach. I guess you'd feel better because they will talk and listen to you. Medication + cognitivo-behavioral therapy is more effective that either of them alone. But anyway, it all depends on what your problem is and what your objectives are.