Even Newer XBL Ban Wave - started 11/4 at 2pm CST

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  1. vumpler

    vumpler New Member

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    ---- As details are released I will make sure and add an update below from the whole thread, etc ----

    Fucking :ugh::ugh:

    Forums are going nuts but anyway it looks like they can finally detect the firmware.

    My neighbor only has 1 burned gamed, Borderlands, Liteon drive, on verbatim's, firmware 1.60 and he called me at 2 saying it signed him off and he's banned.

    I laughed at him, got home signed on Banned as well :wtc:

    I looked online and i'll be damned everyone got hammered and as far as I know my neighbor is the only one who's only played 1 game, it been fully verified before and after it burned and played it after release to get banned.

    Update 1:
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    You get console banned only, yes.


    Update 6:

    Safe Ban Check Using the Website so NOT having to login to your fresh new free ban!

    To verify that your XBL account is still working login here:
    http://live.xbox.com/en-US/default.aspx
    Update 7:

    From XBOX Scene with related to the console ban and what to do with your HDD:
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    THE PLOT THICKENS MOTHER FUCKERS

    From Xbox Scene: Novel but interesting

    Update 9:

    "Here are some details about the Xbox360 LIVE bans I got directly and indirectly from GaryOPA, Commodore4eva (C4E), Iriez and others. Of course don't take any of this info as 100% confirmed, noone knows exactly based on what data MS is banning ... it's just an analysis of what they think is happening and what MS might/can be checking.

    C4E thinks MS is probably detecting and banning consoles from LIVE by tracking usage of backups via timing of the challenge response (c/r) on the drive over the last few weeks or months. A modified FW will reply much faster to the the Challenges requests (stored in a table) than an original firmware (seek on drive). They probably do this test more than once and can ban you if you're above a certain average.
    FuzzyLogic also found that microsoft is sometimes doing additional checks on discs: PFI/DMI (so images without these sectors (or if using an old FWs without support for PFI/DMI) can probably be detected easily), drive inquiry (reads ascii string from drive), and capacity (reports capacity of disc) are requested. Strange thing here is MS requests 0x8000 bytes for PFI and DMI, while it should normally be 0x0800 bytes. TheSpecialist pointed out that the remaining 0x7800 bytes contains the relocated SS and PFI on burned discs ... which would make it very easy to detect backups for MS. C4E however told us this would not work on TS drives as its cut off to 0800 even if more data is asked, it's unconfirmed how modified HLG FWs drives respond to this atm.
    The "read capacity check" will also work as detection on HLG because, unlike the newest TS FWs, it doesn't have true 'stealth media' yet, these drives are reporting back the burned disc based size of PFI instead of the correct PFI.
    Apparently there's also an issue with SS (Security Sector) extracted from Hitachi-LG, some necessary data is screwed ... which means that probably only the Toshiba-Samsung / Kreon setup has been extracting correct SS."

    . They probably do this test more than once and can ban you if you're above a certain average.

    If this is true its only a matter of time before the rest of you are banned

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    Update 10:


    Thousands of gamers may have been cut off from Microsoft's online gaming service Xbox Live for modifying their consoles to play pirated games.

    Online reports suggest that as many as 600,000 gamers may have been affected."http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8354166.stm
    M$ claims as many as 1 million hammered.

    Update 11:

    [c4eva] new fw in dev/test - ixtreme LT (Lite Touch) - more efficient , minimal patching , all aspects of fw indistinguisable from orig, no more bans, No ETA!
    ( @[X]nWo[X] ) [c4eva] new fw in dev/test - ixtreme LT (Lite Touch) - more efficient , minimal patching , all aspects of fw indistinguisable from orig, no more bans, No ETA!
    .:23·40·37:. ( @[X]nWo[X] ) dont ask eta = ban
    .:23·40·40:. ( @[X]nWo[X] ) dont ask question = ban
    .:23·40·45:. ( @[X]nWo[X] ) liteon will be 1st

    ( @[X]nWo[X] ) we ripped 40+ ntsc games
    ( @[X]nWo[X] ) at least every 3rd didnt verify :c
    ( @[X]nWo[X] ) with a properly ripped ntsc
    ( @[X]nWo[X] ) so the db = defn has problems
    ( @[X]nWo[X] ) madden 10 is a prime exampke
    ( @[X]nWo[X] ) example

    Sorry. ixtreme all versions is/are detectable therefore hence a new FW is being worked on. For those with ixtreme I would advice no further use of 360 until this firmware is released. Until then, god bless 360scene. No technical data was being as to WHY its being detected all of a sudden.


    Looks like all fingers are pointing to fw detection of some sort.... good thing is when a new firmware comes out we can resume play, bad part is that most of us not already banned are probably flagged and the ban will eventually come.....
     
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  2. preston

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    rumor has it that it was microsoft themselves releasing the new firmware

    :hsugh:




    yeah i have no fucking clue what im talking about, sorry for your loss
     
  3. FunkyMunniez

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    fuck thatd be hysterical :bowrofl:
     
  4. Genius/GZA

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    its Forza and Borderlands that are getting the ban. im not banned
     
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    O I never said it wouldn't be practical. It'd be a stroke of genius on M$'s part but I just find that it would hilarious as well that M$ pulled a fast one on the entire pirating gaming community.
     
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    Just checked, not banned here either. Oh and I played borderlands, but after the release day and after it was verified.
    :coolugh:
     
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    I didn't play Forza early, and I haven't played Borderlands at all.

    I'm also not banned as of today.
     
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    From the CoD4 thread

     
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    EscapingJail Playing To Win

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    I'm personally not banned though, and I have two backup xboxes waiting if I do get banned.
     
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    This shit gets better and better
     
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    Pitt 1-1-11 — Never Forget OT Supporter

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    From the other ban thread

     
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    Ban pirates before MW2
    Beat PS3 in November NPD
     
  15. Genius/GZA

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    ill just get it for the ps3, problem solved:dunno:
     
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    :h5: Trey 4 Life
     
  17. Twinsen

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    Yeah, I just got a call from 1 client saying they got bant.

    Got another call from another client that was asking about the bans, I just told him, it happens every holiday season, I hope you make it.

    1 down...300 more to go...:uh:
     
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    How many "Waves" are there every year?
    so this was the second
     
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    :ugh: why bring that stupid fan boy shit to every fucking thread.
     
  20. HipHopHead

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    this is like the 3rd in under 3 weeks.

    Before they had like one a year. They pretty much doubled them in the last few weeks. So yeah, they're stepping up their game. lol
     
  21. eXtraVert3d

    eXtraVert3d Pop this, bitch!

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    Good riddance pirates. Why try to kill the industry you enjoy so much? You do realize this is why Sega is no longer in the hardware races and why pc gaming is dying, yes? You can make that connection? Then to hell with all of you.
     
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    calm down. Just real talk my nga
     
  23. juvental604

    juvental604 I like to pee upside down OT Supporter

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    I already bought another 360, not going to buy another one this time. Their plan actually might backfire this time and more people might migrate to ps3 with free online.
     
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    I can understand where you are coming from but Dreamcast was an absolute joke in terms of piracy. Like day one.
     
  25. juvental604

    juvental604 I like to pee upside down OT Supporter

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    The only thing this is doing is stoping online play

    although its still possible to play online with xlink , you just need a 30ms ping. If everyone really does get banned I bet someone finds a way around that 30ms ping shit too
     

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