MMA escaping side mount question

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  1. AK-47

    AK-47 Banned

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    what technique is the best when the guy has his hand on the inside holding your gi? like his hand is on your hip on the inside... makes it hard to create space and get back to guard, always have that problem, as soon as they remove that hand i can create lots of space and get back but not when that hand is on the inside :confused:
     
  2. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    do you mean when one arm is around your neck and the other blocks your hips?
     
  3. Bausk

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    If he is holding on to your gi to keep your hips trapped, he isn't attacking for a submission. At least I can't think of one that would be effective. When he stops blocking the hip and using that arm to attack a submission, they escape.
     
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    yeah exactly, one is on the outside the other on the inside
     
  5. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    theres one escape but its kind of dangerous.

    lets say he has his left arm around your neck, and right arm blocking your hip.

    use your left forearm on his neck and bridge, then slip your right wrist in between his left arm, and your neck. doing this allows you to turn away.

    so now you can do a quick roll away from the guy, and you would make sure to stick your left arm out as you come to your knees so he doesnt circle to your back. then you pull guard.



    honestly, this is a dangerous escape that might give your back to the person. what I would do is get my right forearm under his hip.. dig for a deep underhook with my left arm.. and just chill. if he's sitting there, then hes not attacking you. depending on what arm he moves to attack, you do a corresponding escape.
     
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    yeah, usually they never attack like that you're right
     
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    so just chill and wait, i'll try that next time, this 240lb monster always does this and i can never get back to side mount
     
  8. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    yeah, against someone that big its going to be hard to push them around or bridge. just put your arms in the right spot, and wait for him to make space himself. when you bridge and go crazy, people just hold tighter. let the guy go, and then make a decision
     
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    Against huge guys I would just work on getting to half guard and then trying to take their back. You usually can't keep them in full guard because they are so big, and some can't keep themselves mounted on you. Most big guys (a couple 270-300 pounder blue belts) at my gym usually just gets to side control and works submissions from there. If he's controlling and not attacking, I'd say don't worry about it and try to get half guard when he opens and attacks.
     
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    Don't wear a gi.

    Problem solved.
     
  11. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    way to run away from the problem OPTAMIX :eek3:


    the same stuff still applies no gi anyway
     
  12. Bausk

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    Can be in the same position with someone with an arm under your head and the other blocking your hips in no gi, smartass.
     
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    Savage5point0 Im an asshole.

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    Dont back down from the gi.
     
  14. AK-47

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    awesome advice :bowdown:
     
  15. Civil Disobedient

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    "walk" with your legs toward his head, so you put your head closer to his junk. Try to get as close to a north south as you can. then go crazy pushing up. try to get him to come back down on you hard. when he does, umpa and roll him over so you're on top.
     
  16. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    when someone is blocking your hips with their arm you cant walk your legs towards them.
     
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    Maybe i'm not understanding the position. side control, one arm around neck, one hand blocking hips? walk legs away. not trying to re-guard.

    lets say we're looking at them from birds eye view and they are grappling on a clock. the bottom person's head is at 9, legs at 3. top person's head at 12, legs at 6. so on bottom person's left. bottom walks legs toward 12, trying to get close to 9 and move head to 3.

    but like i said, i might be misinterpreting the description of the initial position.
     
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    i think when you said walk towards his head created confusion since if yoru opponent is in side control the way you describe it is kind of odd.. i get what you are saying but i think thats the confusion.. i think it would be easier to say walk away from the side that your openent has side control on..
     
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    this is why coaching for jiu jitsu does not work well as text
     
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    lol
     
  21. kilian

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    You can't "walk your legs away" because he's holding your head.
    Unless you're super flexible and can make yourself into an L while still maintaining leverage, then no, you can't walk your legs away and bridge up/over and roll out.
     
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    he's holding onto your gi so your not walking anywhere, and if you are he's gonna be right there holding your hip down in the same position
     
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    bait and switch is good for that, sometimes you have to wait, if they have a tight sidemount, with all the grip they want.. sometimes you have to wait, bait and switch.
     
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    where do you guys keep your hands when in bottom of sidemount? underhooked on his farm arm or up against your side so when you bridge you can push his head away?
     

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