GUN Elderly man shoots two suspected burglars at neighbor's home

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  1. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Nov. 15, 2007, 11:38AM
    Elderly man shoots two suspected burglars at neighbor's home

    PASADENA, Texas — A grand jury will decide if an elderly man who shot and killed two men he believed were robbing his neighbor's home acted within the limits of the state's self-defense laws.

    The man, who is in his 70s, shot the two suspected burglars Wednesday afternoon in a quiet subdivision of the city southeast of Houston. He confronted the men as they were leaving through a gate leading to the front yard of his neighbor's home.

    Just before the shootings, the man called 911 to say that he heard glass breaking and saw two men entering the home through a window, Pasadena police said.

    "The man told the dispatcher: "I'm getting my gun and going to stop them. The dispatcher said, 'No, stay inside the house; officers are on the way.'," said police spokesman Vance Mitchell. "Then you hear him rack the shotgun. The next sound the dispatcher heard was a boom. Then there was silence for a couple of seconds and then another boom."

    The telephone line then went dead, but the man called police again and told a dispatcher what he had done. He said he confronted the suspected burglars and asked them to stop, but they did not.

    The man then fired twice, striking one of the suspected burglars in the chest, and the other on the side. The shooter's name was not released.

    When police arrived, they found one dead man across the street, and the other two houses behind a bank of mailboxes in the Village Grove East subdivision.

    The suspects' names were not released, but police said they had documentation from Puerto Rico, Colombia and the Dominican Republic.

    Under state law, Texans are allowed to defend themselves with deadly force to protect their own property. The person using deadly force must believe there is no other way to protect their belongings.

    Defense attorney Tommy LaFon, a former Harris County prosecutor, said the gunman may be on safe legal ground if the neighbor whose home was burglarized tells police he asked the man to watch his property.

    "If the homeowner comes out and says, 'My neighbor had a greater right of possession than the people trying to break in,' that could put him (the gunman) in an ownership role," LaFon said.

    According to the state penal code, a person can use force or deadly force to defend someone else's property if he reasonably believes he has a legal duty to do so or the property owner had requested his protection.
     
  2. lt1aggie

    lt1aggie what?

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    interesting read.
     
  3. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Not the smartest thing for the old guy to do but hope he doesn't get charged don't think it looks to good for him though :hs:
     
  4. lt1aggie

    lt1aggie what?

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    Yeah, before I read the last part of the article, I was already assuming the shooter was screwed.
     
  5. Thunderbear

    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    A true friend, and if that neighbor doesn't man up and say "I told him to watch my property," the neighbor can be added to the corpse pile.
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    The homeowner should simply say, "we have a gentlemen's agreement to watch over each other's houses, kind of like a neighborhood watch."
     
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    wow.

    I'm from La Porte, TX. 15 minutes away from Pasadena, TX.

    as always, Texas > *.
     
  8. Yuppy

    Yuppy Have a seat right there....

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    that shoot would be screwed if he was 20, but hes 70 so he can get away with it.

    even though i think both should be able to get away with it
     
  9. JaimeZX

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    Except for open carry. :(
     
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    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    QFT. I guess we don't have it because the state can't make money off of it.
     
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    poor guy probably had a wwII flashback...... "those krauts are trying to steal my war bonds"
     
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    this guys awesome. The dispatcher said he was gonna get shot, and he asked the dispatcher if he wanted to make a bet on that.
     
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    Even in Texas, that guy is going to have a time justifying that. Hopefully the neighbor will say he was told to watch his house.
     
  17. 7lvis

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    What do i click to listen to the old guy. The guy is old he doesnt need to worry about wasting his life in prison.
     
  18. TL1000RSquid

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    I support what he did but he's going to have a hard time in court with that audio.
     
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    should get a handshake and a home cooked meal from the neighbors.
     
  20. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    At least he started talking right when he got back on the phone, about how they came at him. The first 5 minutes don't sound too good for him.
     
  21. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    :werd: Him saying he was going to kill them several times before he went out there will not help him in court.
     
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    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    Yeah, "Boom! You're dead!" doesn't sound like the words of someone in fear of his/her life.
     
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    people handle fear differently.
     
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    so he "could" legally kill these people. but why, old man just had an itchy trigger finger. i dont think he should have shot them, if this was a younger person he might get charged for some sort of murder, but he's old
     
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    fuck that

    he should send society a bill for exterminating some vermin
     

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