Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by shastaisforwinners, Nov 18, 2005.
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how important is this? I guess i should finally start doing some abs
It's extremely important for squatting heavy. Strong core = big squat.
He's referring to sumo deadlifting, but it applies to squatting and any other similar exercise (conventional deads, gm's, etc)
cool, i guess i'll throw in some heavy sit ups in my routine. But for the above statement, i always thought pulling sumo involves more hips than anything. Would some hip exercises help that lift as well?
yes, I just pulled the part of the discussion dealing with abs, since it applies to all exercises like that. Here is the entire thing:
i need to start working on my abs
Instead of doing good mornings, would it be ok to simply do regular deadlifts for strengthening the lower back.
lol, when i wrote "instead of doing deaflits" i mean "instead of doing good mornings" ill edit now
good post. Thanks.
Today's squat day. Good timing.
depends on your goals. generally good mornings are considered a supplemental exercise to the deadlift/squat meaning that it will improve both those exercises as you improve on the good morning.
I agree with Gogz... I'm not doing GM's at all right now, just squat, deads, and rdls. I'll probably start cycling deads/gm's or rdls/gm's in a week or so though, just to change it up a bit. Been on vacation and whatnot, so I haven't lifted for 2 weeks
I have not been doing good mornings, but i dont think it helped. I never had a problem with them, just tried somethign different, and i think i may go back to what i was doing in the past.
I tried goodmornings again but only stuck to 95lbs.
Should the weight used be similar to your sldl?
you should be able to sldl quite a bit more (i think)
I haven't done them consistently enough to say for sure
how much do you squat and pull?
I just started squatting and dling again in october because I layed off trying to go heavy for 2 years ago because of a fucked up lower back.
Max before squatting just below parallel was 365 for 2-3 reps. Never did go for a max single. Recently did 355lbs just to parallel.
Max before for sumo dl was an easy 415lbs. Haven't tried anything over 375lbs this time...yet.
I was GMing 225 for reps when i was squating 315..
I woudl think you could do atleast 185 for reps, but i dont have a previously injured back.. If yoju cant or dont wanna do goo mornings and you have a 45 back raise, you can basically do those, with a bar on your back, they are liek a GM with strict form
im sure true body builders and powerlifters should rely on that one, but how about just your average joe in the gym? maybe its just me, but im more concerned about injuries than others so i use a belt. i dont compete or plan to neither. should i still consider to workout with no gear on and off?
great find btw
A belt is not gear
I did do 185lbs for a few reps before on gm but wasn't too sure of my form.
One good squat tip I don't hear often is to realize that your hips just 'hang' between your legs. When you are squatting you are letting your hips drop down between your legs. You are NOT folding your legs up to bring your hips down
i dont think you should go heavy on abs. wouldnt want you to get another hernia the size of a baseball