Edmunds Comparo - Chevrolet Camaro V6 vs Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

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    IL Track Tested: 2010 Camaro V6 vs. 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8

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    by: Daniel Pund March 23, 2009

    Inside Line tests hundreds of vehicles a year, but not every one gets a full write-up. The numbers still tell a story, though, so we're introducing a new feature on Straightline called "IL Track Tested." It's a quick rundown of all the data we collected at the track, along with comments direct from the test drivers. Enjoy.

    Everyone has had their eyes on the 2010 Chevy Camaro SS, including us. It is, after all, the Camaro with a V8. This makes the SS the Camaro for enthusiast. And with a 6-speed manual, the SS will stomp through the quarter-mile in a stunning 13 seconds flat at 110.9 mph.

    Also new for 2010, is the Camaro V6, known as the LS, 1LT or 2LT, depending on how much equipment you want on your coupe. All versions use the direct-injection V6 3.6-liter V6 that powers upmarket Cadillac CTSs. And if you order the manual, you get a the same Aisin-built 6-speed gearbox as the Caddy too. That's a good starting point for a car that is supposed to sway those that aren't already initiated into the Camaro faithful.

    This car stomps the V6 American pony-car competition. What? You think a 210-hp 4.0liter V6 Mustang will have an answer for the Camaro V6? You think the Dodge Challenger SE with its 250-hp V6 bolted to a 4-speed automatic is going to do anything but embarrass itself? Stop being ridiculous.

    No, to get a car that gives the V6 Camaro a run for its (relatively little) money you have to go to Korea, of course. Here we speak of the 2010 Hyundai Coupe 3.8 Track. We've track tested both and we think you'll find the numbers and specifications after the jump quite surprising.

    Have a look at a few things below:
    • Despite smaller rotors with single-piston calipers and a heftier curb weight, the Camaro turns in the better braking performance. Although both are quite good.

    • At the quarter-mile, only a 1/10th of a second separates the two. With a one-foot roll-out, they post identical 0-60 mph sprints.

    • One of them is $3,530 cheaper than the other. But which?
    Vehicle: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 1LT (with the RS package)

    Price: $26,845

    Specifications:

    Drive Type: rear wheel drive
    Transmission Type: 6-speed Manual
    Engine Type: V6
    Displacement (cc / cu-in): 3,564 cc (217 cu-in)
    Redline (rpm): 7,000
    Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 304 @ 6,400
    Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 273 @ 5,200
    Brake Type (front): 12.6-inch ventilated disc, single-piston caliper
    Brake Type (rear): 12.4-inch ventilated disc, single-piston caliper
    Steering System: variable ratio rack-and-pinion power steering
    Suspension Type (front): Independent, MacPherson strut, coil springs and stabilizer bar
    Suspension Type (rear): Independent, multi-link, coil springs and stabilizer bar
    Tire Size (front): 245/45ZR20
    Tire Size (rear): 275/40ZR20
    Tire Brand: Pirelli
    Tire Model: P-zero
    Tire Type: summer performance
    Wheel Size: 20 X 8.0 front - 20 X 9.0 rear
    Wheel Material (front/rear): aluminum alloy
    Manufacturer Curb Weight (lb): 3,728

    Test Results:

    0 - 30 (sec): 2.4
    0 - 45 (sec): 4.0
    0 - 60 (sec): 6.0
    0 - 75 (sec): 8.8
    1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.2 @ 98.9
    0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.7
    30 - 0 (ft): 27
    60 - 0 (ft): 107
    Braking Rating: Very good
    Slalom (mph): 68.2
    Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): .89
    Handling Rating: Very good

    Acceleration Comments: Strangely, the V6 Camaro can overwhelm its rear tires almost as easily as the V8, so a low engine speed is needed for launch. Starting with the revs at about 3200 rpm we dropped the clutch and let the tires spin about two-thirds of the way through first gear. Once the clutch is out, pedaling it is needed to keep wheelspin in check. Tranny really doesn't like to be rushed in this car. Second gear crunched every shift during acceleration testing. Slower shifts were never a problem.

    Braking Comments: Despite its less capable single-piston calipers, the V6 Camaro's single-stop performance matches or beats the Brembo-equipped V8 car. We did experience marginal pedal fade after six 60-0 stops, so its heat capacity isn't as high as the more powerful and costly Brembos. Still, 107 feet from 60 mph is impressive.

    Handling Comments: Largely the same as the V8 car, the V6 Camaro's handling is on-par for the segment. And it suffers the same visibility issues. Its small glass area makes placing the car precisely difficult at first. I never felt like I was as close to the cones as I should be in the slalom until I actually hit them. Having less power is the only trait which hurts the V6 car's performance through the cones where exit speed (through sharp acceleration) can make a difference. Otherwise, this car feels the same as the V8. Around the skidpad it burdens its front tires less than the heavier SS and it lacks the power to influence its balance as easily. Powerslides are not easy in the V6 which lacks the oomph to rotate on the throttle.

    Vehicle: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

    Price: $30,375

    Specifications:

    Drive Type: rear wheel drive
    Transmission Type: 6-speed Manual
    Engine Type: V6
    Displacement (cc / cu-in): 3,778cc (231cu-in)
    Redline (rpm): 6,500
    Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 306 @ 6,300
    Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 266 @ 4,700
    Brake Type (front): 13.4-inch ventilated disc, 4-piston caliper
    Brake Type (rear): 13.0-inch ventilated disc, 4-piston caliper
    Steering System: Engine-speed-sensitive, power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering
    Suspension Type (front): Independent, MacPherson strut, coil springs and stabilizer bar
    Suspension Type (rear): Independent, multi-link, coil springs and stabilizer bar
    Tire Size (front): 225/40R19 89Y
    Tire Size (rear): 245/40R19 94Y
    Tire Brand: Bridgestone
    Tire Model: Potenza RE050A
    Tire Type: Summer performance
    Wheel Size: 19 X 8.0 front - 19 X 8.5 rear
    Wheel Material (front/rear): Aluminum alloy
    Manufacturer Curb Weight (lb): 3,389

    Test Results:

    0 - 30 (sec): 2.2
    0 - 45 (sec): 3.9
    0 - 60 (sec): 5.9
    0 - 75 (sec): 8.4
    1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.1 @ 99.3
    0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.7
    30 - 0 (ft): 27
    60 - 0 (ft): 111
    Braking Rating: Good
    Slalom (mph): 69.0
    Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): .87
    Handling Rating: Very good

    Acceleration Comments: No drivetrain protection interruption, despite hard shifts at redline. Feels sharper in the next gear too (no torque reduction?). Best Launch with aggressive wheelspin from about 4,000 rpm.

    Braking Comments: Pedal is not as sharp or responsive as I'd like. The car makes consistent stops though. Note: ABS died when slowing during acceleration test and allowed tire lock-up. No dash indicator light to warn the driver. The problem was not consistent.

    Handling Comments: Slalom: Very good communication despite lighter steering than its competition. It's responsive and confidence-inspiring through fast transitions. Skid pad: It requires more coaxing to get the rear out than I remember in the last test. But overall, it's still very good.

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    that v6 challenger has to be slow as shit :rofl:
     
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    One has a 10 year warranty, the other's warranty won't be worth shit after 2 years because the company will be gone.
     
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    I still think the Camaro looks like shit
     
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    nice assumption
     
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    I still don't get why these magazines and websites insist on using the 3.8 version when everyone knows the 2.0 is the more popular and relatively superior of the two.
     
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    govt life support = as good as gone

    semantics
     
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    ib15pagesoftrishiledbashingthegenesis
     
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    Still a valid issue sadly. Not so much the company, but the warranty bit. Longer warranty and the notorious fact that hyundais never are sold for anywhere near sticker unless the buyer is mentally challenged.
     
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    well that just made me absolutely disgusted with the genesis
     
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    What are two cars I wouldn't buy if my life depended on it?, Alex.
     
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    Even if GM went bankrupt, the resale value on the Camaro will be higher than any Genesis.
     
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    I like the Camaro:dunno:
     
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    um, because they're both RWD coupe V6's and are within a few thousand dollars of one another? :rofl:
     
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    6 year old camaros and hyundais are around the same price here :o
     
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    how the fuck does a "sports car" almost weigh as much as a goddamn muscle car epic fail by hyundai
     
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    I'm a little surprised the V6 Camaro can break 275s loose. :cool:
     
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    Safety features, you'll never see another mass produced car under 3k lbs. that is worth a damn.
     
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