SRS ECT

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    scottymcc New Member

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    Pretty much tried everything now. Anti-depressants don't work, anti-psychotics either don't work or have stopped working after a week or so and mood stabilisers like the valproates, lithium, carbmazapine, oxcarbazapine, gabapentin etc are the same.

    Tried calcium channel blockers which worked great then stopped working again after a few days.

    Shitty outlook for drugs so I want to talk to my shrink about ECT.

    Anyone here ever been had the treatment?
     
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    Darketernal Watch: Aria The Origination =)

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    Electro shock theraphy only works temporarily, and as a matter of fact ,when i look at your post i see that all the methods you are grabbing to are symptom supressors ,not problem solvers. I think that the best approuch for you is to deal with your problems head on, i always give this example, imagine if you are locked into a cage and you desperately want to get out, what helps more electro shock theraphy + tons of drugs, or a key to get out?

    You see a problem remains to be a problem till the end of time unless you go down and cut the root of the problem.

    Therefore if you would post the root of your problem on what's causing your depression,and working on that i think you would get a lot more results , so just spit it out on what's been causing your depression.
     
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    you are wise
     
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    The root cause was amphetamine use. 6 or so months of using the drug and one night things just went haywire. 13 years and 9 psychiatrists later and I'm diagnosed with ultra radian bipolar disorder with flashbacks and psychotic symptoms.

    I tend to also get symptoms from mania and depression at the same time but haven't had any actual mixed mania diagnosis. The docs I've been to tended to have no clue what my problem was due to me having a problem explaining what was going on.

    I've been through therapy for a number of years with several different people which has helped a great deal but it never helped stop any of the symptoms.

    Pretty much it's left me unable to learn/socialise/sleep/get out the house/work properly or even make this post without 5 or 6 attempts . Pretty much depressing having to sit on OT or other message boards as it's the only form of socialising I can do (ehh, well I tend to lurk most of the time)

    I haven't used any illegal drugs in years and it seems stopping them hasn't done a thing to help. Damage is done and I'm running out of options to sort this out.
     
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    Coottie BOOMER......SOONER OT Supporter

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    What's your alcohol and non-illegal drug use like?
     
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    Pretty moderate right now. I do still smoke and drink but have had fairly long periods away from both over the last few years. I've a history of abusing alcohol but never drugs like the Benzo's (valium etc) for some reason.

    Used to drink about a bottle of vodka a night up till about a year and a half ago.
     
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    The brain is a very delicate electro-chemical based organ who's balance may not be disturbed. Imagine you have your Operating System: Windows Vista, you delete half of the harddisks vital steering information,obviously, the result is a complete mess not orderly functioning operating system,almost unable to do a thing. The same counts for your brain, my advice. STOP WRECKING IT ,especially stop drinking, and also stop smoking, its not going to cure you, but you need to start jogging, and start learning. That way your brain can start to 'try' to repair itself partially. If you put alcohol over what you just learned, then its just going to melt away. Its like this, your brain consists like a plant from cells that are in a certain conditions, watering a plant alcohol will result in its death, giving your brain a horrible time by using drugs,alcohol and sigarettes will diminish its function, now that wouldn't be so bad if you didn't had to use your brain for your every day function. First consiously wrecking your brain, and then trying repair it = not a good idea,rather prevent it from becoming damaged in the first place is what you have to do. And its no wonder there's no theraphist that can cure you, because you sustained perhaps unrepairable brain damage, its the price you pay for abusing drugs, but now that you are here in this place, you can only try to move forward from here.

    At this time the most effective treatments for methamphetamine addiction are cognitive behavioral interventions. These approaches are designed to help modify the patient's thinking, expectancies and behaviors and to increase skills in coping with various life stressors. Methamphetamine recovery support groups also appear to be effective adjuncts to behavioral interventions that can lead to long-term drug-free recovery.

    http://www.robertperkinson.com/methamphetamine_treatment.htm
    http://www.amenclinic.com/ac/
    http://www.amphetamine-info.com/
    http://www.adolescent-substance-abuse.com/amphetamine-treatment.html

    I hope you can see that the devastating lifestyle you are been living has got to be thrown out of the window. You don't need drugs to be happy, and you need an extensive brain repair program to bring functionality back into your life. Its has proven very dangerous what you have been doing over the years. Its time to start living a constructive lifestyle and forbid yourself to take things that destroy you even more, its your life man, and its you who gets the disadvantages if you take and do stuff that destroys your life. In the end there is no happyness in these substances, drugs,alcohol and sigarettes only amplify the void in your life. Living a positive and constructive lifestyle is the only valuable option left in these circumstances. Along with reconstructive brain theraphy,support groups and soberity over many many years if not the rest of your life.
     
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    I never tried meths, just it's older brother amphetamines. I didn't find it addictive and quit soon after the problems started. That was over twelve years ago now.

    I haven't taken any illegal drugs in years and never felt any kind of craving for them when I stopped.

    I do realise and accept that this was self inflicted. Damage is done and I'm just looking out for some kind of treatment that'll help me for a little longer than a few days or weeks.

    There's a gym on site here and I would love to get back to going but the problem of just getting out the house is a little too hard to deal with. I've got some weird thing about meeting people I know right now and when the drugs all quit working I'm a mess with or without the drink and cigarettes.

    I have quit both in the past, last time was for about 3 months with the smoking and about 6 for the drink but it didn't help one bit.

    Now I'm probably on about 20 smokes a day and drink about once a week. Usualy when I go out for dinner.

    I'm asking the psychiatrist today about what to do next. Probably bring up ECT but expect more combinations of drugs. :hs:
     
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    So just take walks in either a park, around a lake or just through a quiet neighborhood. You don't have to wave at or talk to anyone, just keep to yourself.

    The point is that even mild amounts of exercise can have dramatic effects on anyone.

    Also be sure to eat healthy, nutritious foods and drink lots of water each day. Get a full 8-10 hours of sleep every night.

    These things sound simple and they are but they can have a dramatic effect on your body's ability to heal itself. Sleep deprivation can have very serious side effects and most people don't fully appreciate them. So don't skimp on sleep....it's soo very important.
    Well that doesn't mean you now have a license to drink and smoke as much as you want to. Come on...any number of other factors could have caused you to NOT feel any different. Your diet may have changed radically or you got less sleep or quit exercising.

    Simply saying you quit drinking and nothing changed doesn't take everything into account. Alcohol and tobacco are chemicals that alter your brains chemistry. How smart do you think it is to add to the confusion already present in your body?? I would suggest you keep smoking and drinking out of your life until you sort everything else out.
    Ever been to a sleep clinic? Sleep apnea can have amazingly dramatic effects on a person because they aren't getting enough beneficial sleep every night.
     
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