GUN dumbass parent nearly taken out by SWAT sniper

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_4496009

    Parent nearly shot as sniper
    Atop school roof, shutterbug football dad sparks evacuation
    By Jeremiah Stettler
    The Salt Lake Tribune
    Article Last Updated:10/15/2006 12:57:32 AM MDT
    MIDVALE - The SWAT team sniper chambered a round, fixed his cross hairs on the suspected gunman at a Midvale youth football game Saturday and clicked off his safety.
    The suspect paced anxiously on the rooftop of Midvale Middle School, peering frequently over the wall at a football field clogged with hundreds of parents and players.
    Police say James Kranz intended to shoot all right, but not with a gun.
    The amateur cameraman, a Sandy father of five, had scaled the school wall with a ladder about 1 p.m. as teams prepared for a youth football game. He toted a long, slender bag on his back - a lawn chair - that a neighbor mistook for a rifle case and called police.
    High above the competition, Kranz planned to shoot video of two of his children playing football.
    But the parent's rooftop roost led to the evacuation of hundreds of young athletes and spectators as police and SWAT team members descended on the school to apprehend a possible sniper.
    Although uncertain about the threat at first, Midvale police sniper J. Guenon said Kranz's behavior grew increasingly suspicious, and his location seemed superb for hitting anything below.
    "I observed him pacing back and forth nervously, constantly looking," he said. "As a sniper, if I were to cause havoc, the spot he was at would have been the perfect spot."
    Two police officers had spotted the man from inside the school. From a second-story window, they ordered him to surrender.
    "Get down!" they shouted. "Get on the ground! Show us your hands!"
    Instead, Kranz turned and walked away, police say.
    "We thought this person did have a rifle," said Midvale police Sgt. Gregg Olsen. "The way he was acting was very, very suspicious to us. When he refused to comply with the two officers who were trying to get him to go down on his knees and show his hands, we felt there was an absolute threat."
    Referees already had cleared much of the football field, ushering people into a parking lot that would separate them from the suspected shooter by a row of cars.
    Andres Dominguez, a Midvale parent, reported hearing someone screaming, "Shooting! Shooting!" when officials ordered the field cleared. He was skeptical, but followed fans off the field.
    Another spectator spotted SWAT team members scanning the rooftop with rifles and figured that this wasn't a false alarm.
    "When I saw the police looking through their scopes, following this guy across the roof, I thought it was for real," said Ron Watkins, of Salt Lake City.
    Instead of complying with police, Kranz hurried to the south side of the building and climbed down. Two officers with rifles greeted him below. Authorities ticketed Kranz for trespassing, then ordered him off the school grounds.
    Kranz, 43, said later he never heard police, and he thought the two officers shouting to him from a window were janitors. He said he was fiddling with his camera, which he often uses to film the games for the teams, and didn't notice anything unusual.
    "I humbly apologize to officials, to the teams, parents and children," Kranz said. " . . . It was nothing but an utter embarrassment."
    The police handled the matter "professionally and perfectly," he said. "I would have carried it out the same way if I were them."
    And yet the school-top stunt could have killed him. Authorities say even the sound of a car backfiring could have triggered a deadly encounter.
    "We're here to try to protect the public," Olsen said. "If we had perceived any type of a shot coming from there, our sniper probably would have taken him out."
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  2. krott5333

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    wow.. cops are stupid
     
  3. Crossett

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    really? it looks really suspicious to me... I think the guy was just an idiot or something.

    I don't think the cops did anything wrong - the article played-up the drama a lot though.
     
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    THe guy probably did that all the time too..
     
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    Wow, OTers are stupid.

    I would have had the crosshairs on him with the safety off too if I was watching his behavior. Cops did the right thing. The guy was an idiot and lucky he wasn't taken out.
     
  7. Aequitas

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    I don't think the cops were stupid, the guy wasn't paying attention and acting suspicious. Even if he thought they were janitors when they were yelling at him from the window why would he just ignore them completely? Sounds kind of like an ass to me.
     
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    So you mean to tell me you can't tell a man with a folding chair bag and a camera from a fucking deranged gunman?! Wow, what a joke. The asshat that called the cops should have a few eye doctor appointments and be jailed for blatant stupidity. People like that who call the fuckin cops on a whim just make things worse.
     
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    I'm inclined to agree here
     
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    dumbass neighbor calls police because of an overactive imagination

    or

    dumbass police prepare to shoot a rifleman that isn't holding anything that remotely resembes a rifle
     
  12. krott5333

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    everyone is now a terroristic gunmen looking to shoot school students :eek3:
     
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    What the fuck is a guy doing on the roof of a building without any kind of permission? I suppose if he'd done it several times before it'd be one thing. The article said that he tapes a lot of the games but it didn't say that he got on the rooftop every time. One more case of not enough information :dunno:.
     
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    Probably one more case of some psychobitch sports mom freaking out and calling the cops for no reason.
     
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    You would be suprised at the percentage of calls we rolled on that was someone being paranoid.

    Let's consider this though before people start ragging on about paranoia.
    Had it been someone who was wanting to do harm to others and police didn't show up because they took it as just a paranoid psychobitch, everyone here would be bitching about cops not doing their jobs and calling them idiots as well.

    You wouldn't believe how many callouts we did that were false alarms or misinformation. That's the job though, you take the info as possibly true, roll expecting the worst and hope it's just a wrong call. When you are sitting on a roof with someone in your scope, your finger resting on the trigger you are praying you hear the no go in your ear rather than a go.
     
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    Good response, but they shouldn't be saying he was about to get shot. If the countersniper didn't see a weapon and confirm the threat, he shouldn't be shooting.
     
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    Anyone else see a camera carried in a "long, slender bag on his back"?

    It was probably a big plastic box.
     
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    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    Who the hell sits on a roof in a lawn chair?
     
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    It's sad that the fact this this happens means that the terrorists have gotten to the American people. People are so tensed now, can't even function and enjoy a normal life.

    Pretty sad...
     
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    most likely a tripod bag, so it would be long and slender
     
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    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    he was a photographer
     
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    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    I know, but the angle of most roofs would make that pretty difficult.
     
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    Actually it will probably be perfect if he's got a good telephoto lens.
     
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    it was the chair, one of those folding ones.

     
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    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    I meant sitting in the lawn chair on the roof.
     

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