MMA Drag On's Monthly "You Guys Fucking Suck - I'm Taking Over" thread v. February

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  1. Gogoplata

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    As usual, you fucking lame faggots aren't talking about shit. Arguing over early stoppages in unimportant, uninteresting fights. :greddy:

    So - as I do about every month - I'm taking this bitch over with a REAL mma thread.. As usual, feel free to make comments, add information and if you are brave - attempt to troll me in which case I will spit hot fire and give you the verbal lashing your father never did. :noes::noes:

    Enjoy bitches. In absolutely no particular order - pick and choose or reply to all. :bigthumb:


    • GSP has recently stated that he is not satisifed with the KO power in his hands and is not happy with his KO finish rate. Do you think he will KO Dan Hardy? Or will he get Serra'd again trying to act like a boxer?
    • GSP has also stated that he is bigger and stronger than he has ever been. He is walking around consistently at 190 where he previously walked at 180-185. Do you think this will effect his cut/performance or will this only increase the strength advantage he has. He has also spoke very openly about his interest to move up to 185 but indicated it will take time as he wants to put on solid muscle mass to get there. How will he fair at 185? He has stated he will not fight Marquardt, Kang or Cote. What about the rest of the 185'ers?
    • Anderson Silva has recently stated that he believes that Nate Marquardt is the future at 185. He said he thinks that Nate will hold the title for a long, long time after he is done but he is not ready to let the belt go yet. Will Anderson beat Vitor? If he does, will be relegate the belt? How does a fight between Vitor and Marquardt go? Are there any other legit challengers for Anderson at 185 currently signed in the UFC? Will Nate truly hold the belt for a long time?
    • BJ Penn is fighting Frankie Edgar. In what round and by what method do you say Penn wins this fight. Will he next face Gray Maynard or will he fight the winner of Florian and Gomi? If Gomi wins - will you pay the $$ for the PPV to see him fight Penn?
    • Are fighters like Sean Sherk, Joe Stevenson, Tyson Griffin and Jim Miller (is Jim the 155'er?) going to be in the running for a shot at Penn? Or will they fight amongst themselves until Penn leaves 155 or retires from the sport.
    • In what round do you predict Wanderlei knocking out Bisping?
    • What do you think the result of Rampage vs. Rashad will be? If someone gave you 30:1 odds, would you take either fighter by submission?
    • Who wins the Shogun vs. Machida rematch? Will the winner face the winner of Rashad/Rampage? Who else do you consider a top contender for the belt at 205 lbs? It is a strong division but in my opinion there are very few top contenders that stand out.
    • What was the best Pride event ever? I think it is a tie between Pride 33 and Bushido 9.
    • What is your candidate for fight of the year for fights that are scheduled currently?
    • Does anyone have any interest in any of the UFC's "old man" match ups that are booked? Couture/Coleman, Hughes/Renzo, Serra/Trigg?
    • Will Alistair Overeem fight in the US before he is stripped of the Strikeforce title? If so, who do you think he fights?
    • Is there ANY chance that Fabricio Werdum can beat Fedor?
    • How do you see a fight between Fedor and Alistair ending?
    • Who are the best fighters in each weight that are currently fighting in Japan? Aoki? Hornbuckle? Kawajiri? Joachim? Lawal?
    • Who wins between Gegard Mousasi and Mohamed Lawal - how/why/when?
    • If Jake Shields signs with the UFC - how does he fair at 170lbs and 185lbs? Will there be conflicts with him fighting against the AKA crew at 170? Is he big and strong enough for the 185 crew?
    • Where is Babalu Sobral? Still looking to the heavens? Anyone have a word?
    • If Nick Diaz is signed to the UFC tomorrow and told he can fight at 170 and 185 - does he fair any better today than he did 4 years ago? Will he still get smothered and controlled by wrestlers?
    • How do you see a rematch between Nick Diaz and Diego Sanchez playing out? How does a rematch between Diego Sanchez and Kenny Florian play out?
    • Who do you think the hot prospect is in the upcoming Bellator tournament?
    • Will Ricardo Arona make an impact in the UFC in the 205 lbs division or will be any failed Pride star?
    • Will Diet Nog be a contender at 205? Or will he be forced into the spotlight and beaten by a Shogun or Machida?
    • Frank Mir vs. Shane Carwin - who wins? How does the winner do against Brock?
    • Does anyone feel that Cain Valazquez is big enough to deal with a Brock Lesnar or Shane Carwin? How will the fight with Big Nog end?
    • Is there any validity to the Herschel Walker / James Toney / Bobby Lashley / Marius Pudzinski types or are they simply cashing in on the MMA train and testing how big their balls are?
    • Who will be the big "break out" star in 2010 in MMA? Will be it a Roger / Rolles Gracie type? A Jacare or Mousasi? Or will it be a quiet newcomer in the UFC like Evan Dunham or Rory McDonald?
    • Will any of the big named WEC stars transition to the UFC? Jaime Varner, Cowboy Cerrone, Ben Henderson, etc.
    • WEC has announced that Faber vs. Aldo will be produced as a PPV. Will you purchase a WEC ppv? Why or why not? Who do you think will win this fight? Is Urijah ready to be back in a title bout? Will Mike Brown put weight on and fight at 155?
    • Does anyone care about Sengoku anymore? Are any of the fighters in Japan destined to transfer to the US? The Jason High's, the Mach Sakurai's, etc?
    • As an MMA fan - have you begun to watch more K-1 now that is is shown regularly on HDNet, etc. If so, do you like it more than MMA? Who is your favorite K-1 fighter? Do you see this sport transitioning back to single martial arts type events or are kickboxing and jiu jitsu simply riding the coat tails of MMA's recent success?
    • Is anyone paying attention to any of the Brazilian MMA organizations? The Shine Fights, Jungle Fights, Bitetti Combats, etc? There are a lot of big names fighting each other there from lower weight Azerado, Dida types to bigger names like Ninja and Arona.
    • Is the day of a single art specialist transitioning to MMA coming to an end? Will the Estima/Jacare/Manhoef types go by the way side of artsists like St. Pierre, Rory McDonald or Frankie Edgar where skillsets are full in all aspects?
    • Favorite fight of 2009?
    • Favorite organization of 2009?
    • Favorite finish of 2009?

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    I've been kinda bored with MMA lately. I'll be interested again in April/May when we get to see some real fights again.
     
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    GSP loses to Hardy
    BJ Penn wins the Edgar fight 48-47
     
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    * Trying to KO someone is almost guarantee of not getting the KO. If it aint broke why fix it?

    * GSP could be a solid gatekeeper at 185

    * Anderson will hold the belt till he retires, Marquardt will hold it and hopefully he wont face a game Vitor.

    * Penn RNC Rd 2?

    * They will ship in talent for Penn, not enough LW's have drawing power anymore.

    * Bispng by disgusting, boring, and ultimately depressing decision?

    * Rampage by black power

    * Machida should win, I pray shogun wins. Rampage beating rashad should put him in contentions, Lil Nog beating Forrest should put him up high as well.

    * MWGP

    * Vera vs Jones could be great if Vera shows up. Too hard to guess really.

    * Old people fights are worthless, but they all deserve to reap some financial benefits of the sport they built.

    * Overeem will never fight in the US

    * Werdum cant beat Fedor in his dreams

    * Fedor KO

    * Japan MMA kind of sucks now. :(

    * Mousassi via TKO

    * I want to see Shields get an instant title shot, he deserves it, and GSP will man rape him.

    * Poor Babalu

    * Diaz would be a great gatekeeper. Would like to see him fight Swick or Hazelett

    * No way to tell, on the feet they both whoop diego's ass. Diego with an actual game plan grinds a decision win against both.

    * dont give a fuck about bellator

    * Arona will prove to be mediocre, he'll wreck his first cookie cutter matchup, then get his shit pushed in by the top tier talent.

    * I dont think Machida will fight him. I'd like to see Shogun beat machida, then whoop lil nog's ass.

    * Want Carwin to win, he should win, I have a feeling Mir will prove me wrong yet again.

    * Velasquez can beat Nog, but he needs to use his brown pride.

    * Lashly has hope, the others are just making a buck. Walker seems to be a fan, happy for him.

    * Jacare looks like he could be a fucking terror.

    * I hope not, if anything i'd like to see the WEC build with new talent. Not lose it.

    * Will not buy a WEC PPV. Although $40 to watch Urijah Faber die sounds tempting.

    * Sengoku always sucked, WVR sucked, Japan has Dream and K1, any other orgs are just going to make it easier for US MMA to kill off their talent pool.

    * Always watched a lot of K1, always will, fav fighter without question is Kyshenko, but Badr Hari is really getting great to watch.

    * Dont care about Brazillian orgs. They all have AIDS anyways.

    * Stop sucking Rory McDOnald's cock faggot.

    * Machida vs. Shogun and Souwer vs. Masato

    * Your mom's org

    * The crafty beaner that feinted a right leg kick, spun with it and cracked the guy with a spinning backfist with the opposite arm.
     
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    lol @ you thinking Edgar will win two rounds
     
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    • GSP has recently stated that he is not satisifed with the KO power in his hands and is not happy with his KO finish rate. Do you think he will KO Dan Hardy? Or will he get Serra'd again trying to act like a boxer?
      No. He'll take him down and hump his face
    • GSP has also stated that he is bigger and stronger than he has ever been. He is walking around consistently at 190 where he previously walked at 180-185. Do you think this will effect his cut/performance or will this only increase the strength advantage he has. He has also spoke very openly about his interest to move up to 185 but indicated it will take time as he wants to put on solid muscle mass to get there. How will he fair at 185? He has stated he will not fight Marquardt, Kang or Cote. What about the rest of the 185'ers?
      He'll be to the MWs like Anderson Silva at LHW
    • Anderson Silva has recently stated that he believes that Nate Marquardt is the future at 185. He said he thinks that Nate will hold the title for a long, long time after he is done but he is not ready to let the belt go yet. Will Anderson beat Vitor? If he does, will be relegate the belt? How does a fight between Vitor and Marquardt go? Are there any other legit challengers for Anderson at 185 currently signed in the UFC? Will Nate truly hold the belt for a long time?
      Vitor is always a crapshoot, but I think he has the tools to beat Anderson. Nate is the only real contender I can think of
    • BJ Penn is fighting Frankie Edgar. In what round and by what method do you say Penn wins this fight. Will he next face Gray Maynard or will he fight the winner of Florian and Gomi? If Gomi wins - will you pay the $$ for the PPV to see him fight Penn?
      Fight Maynard. Gomi won't win.
    • Are fighters like Sean Sherk, Joe Stevenson, Tyson Griffin and Jim Miller (is Jim the 155'er?) going to be in the running for a shot at Penn? Or will they fight amongst themselves until Penn leaves 155 or retires from the sport.
      Yes, but the title-shot-contention fights will be more contentious than the actual title fights. wat
    • In what round do you predict Wanderlei knocking out Bisping?
      2nd
    • What do you think the result of Rampage vs. Rashad will be? If someone gave you 30:1 odds, would you take either fighter by submission?
      Rashad by decision
    • Who wins the Shogun vs. Machida rematch? Will the winner face the winner of Rashad/Rampage? Who else do you consider a top contender for the belt at 205 lbs? It is a strong division but in my opinion there are very few top contenders that stand out.
      Shogun :x:, and Shogun would beat Rampage again :x:x2
    • What was the best Pride event ever? I think it is a tie between Pride 33 and Bushido 9.
      Bushido 9
    • Does anyone have any interest in any of the UFC's "old man" match ups that are booked? Couture/Coleman, Hughes/Renzo, Serra/Trigg?
      Yes, as long as they're not the main event
    • Will Alistair Overeem fight in the US before he is stripped of the Strikeforce title? If so, who do you think he fights?
      Yes. Coker will dangle enough money in front of him. He should fight Rogers IMO
    • Is there ANY chance that Fabricio Werdum can beat Fedor?
      No
    • How do you see a fight between Fedor and Alistair ending?
      Either Fedor by whatever he wants if he lasts past the first minute, or Overroid by punches in the first minute
    • Who are the best fighters in each weight that are currently fighting in Japan? Aoki? Hornbuckle? Kawajiri? Joachim? Lawal?
      Crusher right now
    • Who wins between Gegard Mousasi and Mohamed Lawal - how/why/when?
      Mousasi...I think
    • If Jake Shields signs with the UFC - how does he fair at 170lbs and 185lbs? Will there be conflicts with him fighting against the AKA crew at 170? Is he big and strong enough for the 185 crew?
      GSP would run through him, and Alves would give him lots of problems. I'd say Shields would do pretty well otherwise
    • If Nick Diaz is signed to the UFC tomorrow and told he can fight at 170 and 185 - does he fair any better today than he did 4 years ago? Will he still get smothered and controlled by wrestlers?
      He'd do better, but he'd still get smothered by wrestlers. He's better than he was 4yrs ago, but so are the wrestlers
    • How do you see a rematch between Nick Diaz and Diego Sanchez playing out? How does a rematch between Diego Sanchez and Kenny Florian play out?
      if Diego from the BJ fight comes out, Diaz will keep the distance and punch his face whenever he wants. if Diego actually takes him down, then Diaz by sub. I'd pick kenflo by decision over Diego
    • Will Ricardo Arona make an impact in the UFC in the 205 lbs division or will be any failed Pride star?
      Too soon to tell. he's a wildcard right now
    • Will Diet Nog be a contender at 205? Or will he be forced into the spotlight and beaten by a Shogun or Machida?
      He'll be a contender IMO
    • Frank Mir vs. Shane Carwin - who wins? How does the winner do against Brock?
      Carwin, by less-explosive Lesnar GNP. Mir would die against Lesnar, Carwin would try to stand and get taken down, but might take it to a decision
    • Does anyone feel that Cain Valazquez is big enough to deal with a Brock Lesnar or Shane Carwin? How will the fight with Big Nog end?
      Yeah, he's big enough. Nog wins the standing fight, but won't KO Cain. Cain supposedly has good sub defense, but i dont' see him mounting much offense on the ground against Nog. Nog by something
    • Is there any validity to the Herschel Walker / James Toney / Bobby Lashley / Marius Pudzinski types or are they simply cashing in on the MMA train and testing how big their balls are?
      Lashley can make waves in Strikeforce, but he still has lots to prove
    • Who will be the big "break out" star in 2010 in MMA? Will be it a Roger / Rolles Gracie type? A Jacare or Mousasi? Or will it be a quiet newcomer in the UFC like Evan Dunham or Rory McDonald?
      Mousasi some more
    • Will any of the big named WEC stars transition to the UFC? Jaime Varner, Cowboy Cerrone, Ben Henderson, etc.
      No, except maybe Jose Aldo
    • WEC has announced that Faber vs. Aldo will be produced as a PPV. Will you purchase a WEC ppv? Why or why not? Who do you think will win this fight? Is Urijah ready to be back in a title bout? Will Mike Brown put weight on and fight at 155?
      No, and Aldo by whatever he wants. Urijah is always game, but Aldo will put him away. MTB should remain at FW
    • Does anyone care about Sengoku anymore? Are any of the fighters in Japan destined to transfer to the US? The Jason High's, the Mach Sakurai's, etc?
      Kawajiri, Joachim, and Aoki IMO
    • As an MMA fan - have you begun to watch more K-1 now that is is shown regularly on HDNet, etc. If so, do you like it more than MMA? Who is your favorite K-1 fighter? Do you see this sport transitioning back to single martial arts type events or are kickboxing and jiu jitsu simply riding the coat tails of MMA's recent success?
      yes. i don't like it more than MMA, but like it a lot. i like watching Feitosa personally. K1 will always exist, but just not in the US
    • Is the day of a single art specialist transitioning to MMA coming to an end? Will the Estima/Jacare/Manhoef types go by the way side of artsists like St. Pierre, Rory McDonald or Frankie Edgar where skillsets are full in all aspects?
      Yes, no, kinda
     
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    Cage sucks now because MMA has been sucking the last 90 days or so. All the big names have been injured/playing actor/putting on exhibition matches against reality TV stars.

    I didn't buy the last UFC, won't buy this weekend's, and didn't try to find a stream of the Strikeforce show last Saturday. When guys get healthy there'll be more to talk about.
     
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    I'm surprised you haven't brought up GSP has been training with Mousasi, or im too lazy to look for you bringing it up. Last i read on UG they were verbally humping each other via the word "humble."
     
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    And i predict either Diet Nog or Shogun will be 205 lb champ by years end.
     
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    GSP gets knocked out

    he'll do well @ 185, but not as dominate as he is @ 170

    really have no answer for this one....

    penn 2nd round ref stoppage. He'll fight Gomi next. I won't buy the PPV, but only because I don't have cable or satellite.

    they'll fight amongst themselves, but one will eventually get a shot.... and that fight, whomever it may be, will be Penns last fight.



    • late 2nd rd

    evans takes a boring fight, wouldn't touch that bet with a 10ft pole.

    shogun.. depends if rampage wins, I don't think he'll get a title shot, but I do think if rashad wins, he gets the nod. 205 will continue to be a revolving door and no one will dominate the division.

    not sure... unfortunately didn't watch as much pride as I'd like...

    gotta be couture/colman or ortiz/lidell :mamoru:

    no

    I'll get to those later.
     
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    Machida will beat Shogun and stay the champ for a long time imo. He got caught off guard in the last fight. I don't think anyone expected Shogun to look so good and to be able to go 5 rounds so well, Machida included. Next fight Machida will be prepared and will come out VICTORIOUS. It sucks that Shogun should've been the champ and now he probably never will.
     
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    before i say anything- thanks. Great thread.
     

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