GUN Dozens of illegal guns seized in raid on commodities trader's home in Lake Forest

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    Dozens of illegal guns seized in raid on commodities trader's home in Lake Forest
    Homeowner's gun permit had been revoked, source says, and he is now charged with multiple felony counts of possessing guns

    By David Heinzmann and Susan Kuczka | Tribune reporters
    6:24 PM CDT, May 8, 2008

    Federal agents and Illinois State Police raided the multimillion-dollar Lake Forest home of a commodities trader Thursday morning to seize at least 85 illegal guns, law enforcement sources said.

    The homeowner, Benjamin Stevens, 49, was arrested and charged with multiple felony counts of possessing a firearm without a Firearm Owner's Identification card, Lake County prosecutors said. Stevens' card was revoked in 2002 after a domestic battery arrest, a law enforcement source said.

    Authorities will test two .50-caliber machine guns seized in the raid to determine whether they were capable of firing in fully automatic mode, which would lead to more serious federal charges, said ATF Special Agent Donald Sorrano.

    Police and agents also recovered more than 50,000 rounds of ammunition from the home, Sorrano said. If the ammunition turns out to be armor-piercing, that too would be a federal crime, he said.

    ATF agents and state police raided Stevens' 5,000-square-foot house in the 1900 block of Telegraph Road late in the morning. The home, which has a six-car garage and sits on 2 acres, is worth more than $2 million, public records show.

    Stevens was charged in March with misdemeanor domestic battery in Lake County after he allegedly pushed his teenage son and wife and struck his teenage daughter. He had been free on $5,000 bail in that case, court records show. His attorney did not immediately return phone calls for comment.

    Stevens owns Benjamin & Jerold, a Chicago commodities brokerage with an office on Jackson Boulevard in the Loop. However, phone numbers and a Web site for the firm were not working Thursday.

    In 1994, Benjamin & Jerold paid a $7,500 fine for conducting business without effectively qualified and registered employees, according to the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority. The firm paid a $5,000 fine to the Illinois Securities Department a year later on similar charges.

    In 2000, the firm paid $12,312.50 in damages after being accused of fraudulent activity, negligence and breach of contract, the regulatory authority's records show.

    Stevens' home sits on a secluded two-lane road lined with multimillion-dollar mansions on sprawling lots in the western part of Lake Forest. Early Thursday afternoon, about a dozen unmarked vehicles lined the winding driveway, and a large white truck was parked in front of the front door.

    Neighbors who asked not to be identified said they rarely saw Stevens, but he recently had been upset about flooding at his residence following a water-main break in the neighborhood.

    Tribune reporters Emily S. Achenbaum and Joshua Boak contributed to this report.
     
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    owning AP ammo is a federal offense?
     
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    Usual media fuck up them not knowing the facts.
     
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    according to the article, thats what ATF Special Agent Donald Sorrano said :dunno:
     
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    Just keep telling the people that all guns are dangerous and illegal and they'll eventually believe it.
     
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    50,000 rounds? :run:












    Sounds like he was off to a good start.
     
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    i'd strike his teenage daughter :kdubb:
     
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    They don't consider M855 or other FMJ with a penetrator core to be AP do they?
     
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    I wish I had 2 .50 cal machine guns :o
     
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    I like how they call the .50 cal rifles "machine guns", but don't know if they are even capable of being full auto.
     
  12. dannybonbon

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    machine guns are for suppressive fire, rifles are for accuracy
     
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    What the fuck does that have to do with this story? :ugh:
     
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    Wait a minute...:o
     
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    No. M855 will not penetrated hardened steel. AP is defined as having a tungsten-carbide penetrator.
     
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    http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000921----000-.html
    (B) The term “armor piercing ammunition” means—
    (i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
    (ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.


    http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000922----000-.html
    (a) It shall be unlawful—
    (7) for any person to manufacture or import armor piercing ammunition, unless—
    (A) the manufacture of such ammunition is for the use of the United States, any department or agency of the United States, any State, or any department, agency, or political subdivision of a State;
    (B) the manufacture of such ammunition is for the purpose of exportation; or
    (C) the manufacture or importation of such ammunition is for the purpose of testing or experimentation and has been authorized by the Attorney General;


    Doesn't atf test usually mean "fiddle with and hammer on until it fires automatically?"
     
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    maybe i cant read, but from my understanding, that just restricts manufacturing and importing AP ammo :dunno:
     
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    Yeah, there's plenty of old AP ammo floating around in the states.

    Lots of Chinese 7.62x39 came in before imports were banned.
     
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    Correct it can no longer be imported and dealers cant sell it but its perfectly legal to possess stuff thats been in country since the restrictions came to be.
     
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    well thats the point i'm trying to make.

    fucking atf
     
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    And the shitty state of Il. the guy hasn't even been convicted of a crime yet, got his FOID revoked for smacking his kids who probably deserved it.
     
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