does the bar count in t-bar rows?

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  1. Skeletor

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    really not an important question... just curious whether or not when I log my weights whether I should include the bar for this exercise.
     
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    How do you even know what the bar weighs?
     
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    yes, +45
     
  4. Skeletor

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    standard olympic bb


    45lbs
     
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    i dunno if it's actually 45 since you're not really lifting all of it. i'm interested in knowing the answer to this question.
     
  6. φ

    φ Eugenics is the self-direction of human evolution.

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    How much does the fat bar weigh? 55?

    EZ-curl bars are generally 15, yes? And the straight bar (a bit longer than the EZ) is 25?
     
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    eh, you're not lifting the full 45, because your pivoting it on the floor.

    you dont have a t-bar lever setup?
     
  8. Skeletor

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    that's all i was wondering.... you don't typically count the bar with smith machine because it's on a track, and technically the t-bar is somewhat tracked because the bottom of it is absorbed by the floor.
     
  9. Skeletor

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    no rowing machines at the gym that hit from the same angle


    edit: plus it's fun doing them in the corner :o
     
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    the guy who owned the gym i was at before would call people fucking idiots and tell 'em to leave if they tried to pull that shit.. especially since we had a t-bar row like 5 feet from where these doucheheads were doing this,.
     
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    one of these things

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  12. Skeletor

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    there is one of those but it has rest attached to it so you have to lay at a 45* incline basically.... plus the grip is such that you can only have wide grip on it.... the point of t-bars for me is to get a good close grip
     
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    yeah, we have both.. the one pictured and the one you'er speaking of.

    do you use the handle that ronnie uses in his vids?
     
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    the amount of weight that you are actually pulling is going to change constantly depending on the angle at every moment in time.
     
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    bent barbell rows > t bar rows
     
  16. Skeletor

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    I do those too but I use t-bar's every other week to switch my grip from close (tbar) to wide or medium (bb rows)



    really though DB rows > both
     
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    I hate BB rows.

    I prefer DB rows, chest supported rows, Pendlay rows, and low rows. BB rows IMO for most people are just cheater central. I don't know how many times I've seen "BB Bench press: 225x2, BB row 225-275x5" or whatever
     
  18. Skeletor

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    they jsut don't feel comfortable to me. that's why i prefer t-bar, and when I'm not trying to do close grip I'll do DB rows...
     
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    Pendlay rows are good too if you want a similar thing to a BB row. Just don't make a habit of being a cheater on rows. Sometimes a little leg drive or whatever is cool.. but hell just about everybody outrows me and I can DL 200-300+ more than them.
     
  20. φ

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    I feel like I get shitty ROM with T-bars and BB rows.:dunno:
     
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    glad im not the only one who hates bb rows.
     
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    i hate bb rwo cause im always sore as shit form leg day
     
  23. ulter

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    I've never counted the bar, any bar. I only count what I add to it just like a machine. I write my weights down in my log so I know what to use next time and not to compare myself to others. But that's just me.
     
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    I do REAL tbar rows right next to that machine:mamoru:

    It puts my back at an uncomfortable angle and doesn't all for a full range of motion.
     
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    I wouldn't count the weight of the bar.
     
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