Does fat content count towards cutting or just calories?

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  1. killerZees

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    I think if you ekep it within reason

    doesn't the thread(s) say to aim
    50/25/25
    carbs/protein/fats

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    Count towards cutting? Huh?
     
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    Chris3G Bullshark Testosterone

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    what? :confused:
     
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    should I care if my breakfast has 300 calories, 22 grams of fat and like 25 grams of protein is really what Im asking.
     
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    you should care that your breakfast only has 300 calories
     
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    I have no idea what's going on in this thread

    edit: yes, you should care. Your breakfast needs more calories and protein.
     
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    Why would he want more calories if he's cutting?
     
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    TheMustafa hook 'em

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    so he minimizes muscle mass loss :nono:
     
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    NickStam Buy Low, Sell High

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    If you're wondering if you drink a gallon of fish oil daily, will you still lose weight? No.
     
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    moses OMGWTFBBQ

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    sometimes i'm so confused when i read threads like this.
     
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    what part of the question did u people not get?
     
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    moses OMGWTFBBQ

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    well, my general confusion comes from wanting to build as much muscle as i can, and try to not have a beer gut and man tits anymore. I've been working on this goal since Oct 04 and i've seen minimal progress. My diet is usually 90%, but being a night owl, and a dj its hard to keep it at 100%.

    So i've basically got no fucking clue if i'm bulking or cutting, and i've got no clue how much cardio i should be doing in between lifting sessions.

    Basically i'm beyond frustrated. Overall, not just this particular thread.
     
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    Ive been doing rather good losing weight steadily. Just wasnt sure if fat in food really made a difference.
     
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    TheMustafa hook 'em

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    your confusion comes from the fact that it is very difficult, if not impossible to build muscle and cut fat concurrently. you either build muscle (bulking) or cut fat (cutting).
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    The broken english part. I understand what you're trying to say now but you could've worded the title better. Something like "Is fat content or total calories more important to cutting?"

    At least I think thats what you were going for.
     
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    Exactly what I was going for.
     
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    what about clean bulking, would that be best?
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    To answer your question: calories, although you want to aim for a decent ratio of protein:carbs:fats
     
  20. TheMustafa

    TheMustafa hook 'em

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    you always want to eat clean, its just that with bulking you need a lot of carbs to help synthesize muscle tissue. when cutting, you want to eat a lot of protein to minimize muscle loss while reducing carbs to cut fat
     
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    There is not much loss when your body assimilates fat.
    I think that there's a 4% loss of energy when fat is assimilated, 26% for carbs and 30% for proteins.
    So eating the same amounts of calories but eating more proteins than fat should be better.
    You should also consider how much will the food influence your sugar in your blood. It's better to eat food which won't make it peak too much, because your body begins to produce fat when your sugar level in your blood is at a certain level.
    I'm not sure if what I've written so far is comprehensible, I try to translate it from French. I found an article talking about things to consider when you eat, but it's in French...
     
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    TheMustafa hook 'em

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    when you eat high glycemic index (gi) foods, your body has to compensate for the sudden increase in blood sugar by releasing insulin. insulin promotes fat storage and muscle building. to cut fat, you want to keep blood sugar levels relatively low and constant. obviously, in this state, you cant effectively build muscle.
     
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    i'm eating clean now, breakfest i usually do a shake with 1% w/added protein, 2 scoops of ON, 1 tsp natty PB and 1/3 cup of oats, i'll snack on strawberries, almonds, string cheese thru the day, and eat chicken breast for lunch and dinner. Spinach salads w/homemade dressing (olive oil, lemon juice, various spices) and pre/post shakes.
     
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    what is natty pb?
     
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    natural peanut butter
     
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