GUN Does anyone NOT support a background check?

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  1. hsmith

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    Instant checks?

    I am not talking about states that wait days to sell you the gun, just the instant check to ensure you aren't a fucking loon?
     
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    I think its a pain in the ass when I get delayed simply because its the weekend and then I have to wait till monday to get my shit.

    However I belive it is a sound idea.
     
  3. VladTemplar

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    I've got no problems with it, but if you're going to require it then I should be able to buy any sort of firearm, weapon, or munition I can afford and have the desire to purchase.
     
  4. hsmith

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    Agreed.
     
  5. hsmith

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    Well that blows :o
     
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    It wouldn't bother me that much if they didn't save information on who's buying pistols.
     
  7. VladTemplar

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    Yeah I don't support any kind of registration or record keeping.
     
  8. hsmith

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    Agree.

    But then again, why are violent offenders out of jail :hsugh:
     
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    I would like to see it open to public use for person to person sales.
    I think that would be cool to have the ability to call in a new owner without paying the FFL fees
     
  10. hsmith

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    I agree, it would be nice to ensure you aren't selling to a criminal

    But if i were selling to someone it would be to someone i know well, not a stranger due to this restriction
     
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    I'm ok with instant checks.
     
  12. ShackleMeNot

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    I don't support background checks on buying firearms.
     
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    Reasoning?
     
  14. one66stang

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    I think its ok but I would like to see you be able to go to the gun store or police station before hand and do a "pre-check " that was say good for 1 year or something like that. Possibly do it on your first gun purchase of the new year. Then for the rest of the year you did not have to do it again.
     
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    I support background checks, but it should be done WITHOUT the serial number, TYPE of gun, or any other gun-identifying record. Honestly, you want to know if *I* can purchase a gun. They don't need to know if I did buy it, or what it was. And NONE of the info should be stored.

    In that scenario, I support the check. Make sure I'm legit to buy, but don't play big brother on the record-keeping -- and that means you don't need to know what the serial # is!
     
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    I support it, and to a further extent, I think that the NICS check needs to tie in and look for mentally incompetent people as well. People who have been submitted against their will to a mental health institution, or event willfully for some cases, should not be allowed to own firearms... I'm also also kind of for an intelligence test of some kind for people to own firearms, but then i realize that's another form of control. If you think about it though, this would stem some of the gun problems.

    Didn't the VT shooter have to go to a mental institution against his will, and yet was still allowed to buy new pistols?
     
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    I do not support them. The program is a waste of money, criminals aren't going to feel obligated to buy guns legally in the 1st place and if it did stop them they'd just get them some other way. Futile effort ftl.
     
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    I simply do not believe that the real aim of ANY gun control measure is my personal safety or the safety of society as a whole. It is about control.

    I don't care who buys a gun. I don't care what kind of gun they buy. I don't care what caliber, size, color or function. I only care what they do with it after they own it.

    A government-run system for prohibiting certain persons from purchasing firearms will only become more restrictive (ooops, I meant to type "reasonable") until it is an impediment to all of us exercising a Constitutional right.
     
  19. PanzerAce

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    I actually wouldn't mind registration as long as there was ZERO possibility of it ever being used to take the guns.


    But since that will never happen, fuck registration.
     
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    No need for registration, period. Only reason I think serial numbers should even be on the weapon is for warranty purposes.

    Even then I'd happily buy a SN# free weapon if it were legal.
     
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    I didn't say need, I said that I wouldn't mind if I was 100% sure that it wouldn't be used to take my guns.

    Say, for example, a firearms is stolen/lost, what proof does the original owner have that it is theres? if it was registered, it would make it easier.
     
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    What good does registration of firearms accomplish?
     
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    By this logic we should be registering laptops, tvs, computers, home theater systems, cell phones, really anything of value with a serial number. It isn't the government's business to be a nanny for you and keep track of the numbers of all your property.
     
  24. Werm

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    No registration here (even for handguns) and fuck states that require you to register.

    I think background checks are good to purchase.
     
  25. VladTemplar

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    Aye

    Its like writing down the s/n of everything you own and giving it to the police after you've been robbed. That list will just get put in a random evidence file that gets put in an evidence box and will never be looked at. Eventually it's going to be yet another file in yet another box on another shelf in another evidence storage warehouse. Until the time comes for the statue of limitations to come into effect and the whole box gets burned.

    It's a waste of time and worthless.
     

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