Does anyone else get really tired after 8 hours sleep?

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  1. Ep

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    For whatever reason, I can sleep 6 hours and spring out of bed in the morning and be fine all day. I get 8 hours of sleep, I feel really tired in the morning and ready to go to sleep at 3pm.

    I haven't been able to make any sense of it. I can work out the night of 6 hours, and have an off day the night of 8 hours, and I'll still be tired after the 8
     
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    Agreed. Same shit with me man. Something with REM cycles I believe.
     
  3. Ep

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    Weird... I have been sleeping 8 hours EVERY night for awhile now but now that I have 7am and 8am classes, I can't always get 8 in. Somehow, on those days (despite training the night before) I feel better than I do after 8. I honestly feel like shit right now. Maybe it's because I went to sleep at 11 and that's too early for me?
     
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    quality of sleep is very important - are you getting good sleep? do you wake up a bunch of times? do you have sleep apnea?

    i have experienced this many times before and always contributed it to the idea that if your body is used to x amount of hours, it is ready to wake up after x amount of hours, and once you hit x+1, x+2, etc. it has entered another deep sleep cycle. however this is a very primitive explanation and i doubt it makes any real scientific sense.

    for me consistency (sleep hygiene) is key. i try to always go to sleep and wake up at the same times +/- an hour. (aside from occasional sleep-in days)

    http://www.umm.edu/sleep/sleep_hyg.htm
     
  5. Ep

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    I have no problems sleeping at all. Now that I'm back in school AND hitting the gym, I literally fall asleep the second I go to bed. I don't have a great mattress but if that was the major problem, I think my mornings would always suck.. Also, my body is used to 8 hours (I would think) because I've been doing that consistently for a long time now. So why would 6 hours all of a sudden be much better?

    It could be a mental thing... When I've slept for 6 hours or less, I wake up and practically shoot out of bed and my mind instantly thinks "did I just sleep? Damn that was quick". When I get 8 hours, I know I've gotten plenty of sleep. In fact today, I woke up before my alarm
     
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    i don't think it has anything to do with your mattress.

    is your sleep schedule erratic or do you usually go to sleep/wake up at the same time?
     
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    Its funny you mentioned this...I've noticed the same thing.

    When I had classes in college I would sleep 8, 9, or 10 hours a night. I would usually then crash around 4pm-7pm for a nap.

    Now, I get 6 or 7 hours a night and go from 6am-11pm all day without a nap. I do not even feel tired or lagging during the day.
     
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    im more affected by the time i wake up at. i can sleep 8 hours and wake up at 6 am and be tired as fuck but if i sleep from 4 am to noon then i feel fine.
     
  9. Ep

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    If I get 8 hours, I'm going to bed by 12 or 1. The older I have gotten, the more I hate getting up at 11am or later.

    If I'm getting less than 8, it's because I have to get up early and there is no way in hell I'm going to bed at 9pm
     
  10. Ep

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    This is also pretty true for me. If it's still dark out when I wake up, I'm going to inevitably feel tired. This goes away the second I am out of my house though. These days, it's dark in the morning whether I get a ton of sleep or not
     
  11. Ep

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    Shit is weird dude! Maybe I should try 7 hours and see how that goes. I know docs recommend 8 hours but shit if I feel awful all day that isn't much help
     
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    i wish i can get 8 hours.
     
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    groggy after 8+ hrs
     
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    8 hours I feel like sleeping for another 4. If I sleep 4 hours, I'm wired.
     
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    Just wake up and don't try to fight the urge to lay back down for a snooze. It took me a day or two to get used to it. I love it now.
     
  16. Ep

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    That's what I do, I mean I have to get to class and all. It seems like there are other people with this same problem. Should I sacrifice an hour or two to feel better? Or is it going to hurt my gains etc?
     
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    A considerable amount of sleep-related behavior is apparently hard-wired into human biology - humans in all cultures get tired, require sleep for good health, and have similar symptoms when sleep deprived. Scientific research has identified some genetic variations, including:
    A mutation that moves consolidated sleep earlier, resulting in a sleep cycle from 7:30pm to 3:30am.
    A mutation in BHLHB3 which apparently reduces the amount of sleep needed for healthy living from 8 hours to only 6.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep

    i think it's only a small percentage of people who need 6hrs instead of 8, though. but no, i personally feel best on 8-9 hours of sleep.
     
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    I doubt a hour will make anything of a difference. Plus, you'll probably be able to sleep harder if you get under 8 hours and don't nap through the day.

    I think that's why I have more energy now. Even though its way less sleep its a better quality sleep.
     
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    Fuck no. Since I started working I've been getting ~6 hours down from 8-9 and I feel like shit most of the time. Progress in the gym has stalled too.
     
  21. Ep

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    what do naps have to do with the fact that I feel better on 6 hours?
     
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    I tend to feel better on 6-7 hours, meaning I just feel more refreshed when waking up, get less sluggish during the day, and fall asleep more easily that night.

    If I get 8 + hours it is harder to wake up, I am more sluggish all day, caffeine has no effect on me, and I can never fall asleep later that night at a reasonable hour.

    Luckily my college schedule allows me to kinda pick and choose when I go to bed/get up. Lately I've been on a go to bed at 3am, wake up at 10:30 thing. I'd like to get back to a go to bed at 1am, wake up at 8am thing.

    Less than 6 hours = get out of bed easily, but do not function well all day. Tired, mind is not sharp, physically weaker and less motivated to work out.

    6-7 hours = seems optimal for me.

    8-10 hours = sluggish, damn near impossible to wake up without hitting the snooze 3 times, and hard to fall asleep at night.

    10-12 hours (did this for a couple semesters, lol) = wake up refreshed, wide awake all day, can't sleep for the life of me at night.

    So I tend to shoot for 6.5-7 hours.
     
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    Typically, yes. But I'm the same way. I will take a 30min nap and dream.

    I used to NEVER dream (at least to the point of remembering it). I can recall going months on end without ever having a dream I remembered upon waking.

    Now, I dream nearly every night, often several different dreams that are extremely vivid.

    I'm attributing it to the 1mg melatonin I take probably 5 days out of the week.
     
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