MMA Do you think that Sherk willingly took anabolic steroids? Everyone vote.

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Did he willingly take steroids?

  1. Yes, he willingly and knowingly took illegal performance enchancing drugs.

    73.1%
  2. No, it was due to tainted, over-the-counter supplements or for some other reason

    26.9%
  1. Sammo

    Sammo New Member

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    Poll in a minute.

    My vote is no, that his increased nandrolone content was due to taking too many uncontrolled over the counter supplements, combined with an extremely intense training regime. For whatever reason, I trust Sean.
     
  2. checkii

    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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  3. Sammo

    Sammo New Member

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    I just want to get a group consensus
     
  4. Shrug

    Shrug Die in a Kimbo fight

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    Bear Fight New Member

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    Yes, I think he's a cheater.
     
  7. Optamix

    Optamix New Member

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    Yes, I think his low naldrone count was due to coming off cycle to late.
     
  8. checkii

    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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    let me go take a look at a picture of him.... .....yup.
     
  9. turbodude

    turbodude Just a photographer OT Supporter

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    yep sure did..
     
  10. The Ghost

    The Ghost Pain for Love

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  11. apman0000

    apman0000 OT Supporter

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    no the testosterone fairy snuck into his room at night and injected him while he slept.

    it's natural to see 155 pounders look like that
     
  12. kilian

    kilian You've got quite a treasure there in that Horadric OT Supporter

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    Why are you such a whingy cunt?

    Yes, I think he took some kind of roids.
     
  13. Kenny Dalglish

    Kenny Dalglish New Member

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    :rofl:
     
  14. alkalinesolo

    alkalinesolo Active Member

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    No, I don't think he did - although I think his defense of "well I didn't know!" is bullshit and he shouldn't have gotten the sentence reduced because of it. When you're putting that much stuff into your body and you know you have a drug test coming up you should probably make sure that none of the over-the-counter stuff you're taking is banned or tainted.
     
  15. apman0000

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    :wtc:


    i'll probably never recover from the pain you caused me
     
  16. Sylva

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    The ester for that steroid can stay in your system for up to something like 17 months so I doubt thats the case.

     
  17. JordanClarkson

    JordanClarkson OT Supporter

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    I think he is way too knowledgeable to get caught, so while the test may have been mishandled, I believe he still took steroids.
     
  18. checkii

    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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    it was two tests, ran separately, both coming up with the same result.
     
  19. Sylva

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    The human body produces, for an average person, about 2-4 ng/mL naturally, and an athlete engaged in activity, about 6-8 ng/mL. Sean Sherk's drug test showed a level of 12 ng/mL of Nandrolone. Now this is an elevated level of Nandrolone compared to the average person, but is not consistent with that of previous Nandrolone abusers. As many of you might remember Royce Gracie also tested positive for Nandrolone after his fight with Sakuraba. Royce Gracie's drug test showed a level of 50 ng/mL of Nandrolone. Now Sean Sherk's Nandrolone levels are higher than that of an average person, but is lower than that of previous abusers.

    Here's where I got my numbers.

    http://mmajunkie.com/2007/08/06/repo...for-extension/

    http://mmajunkie.com/2007/08/02/royc...pheld-by-csac/

    He passed a polygraph test. Not many people in the world can do that who are lieing.

    Im inclined to beleive him.
    1.) Hes a genetic freak thats been weight training since the age of 8 and wrestling since 6.
    2.) His work ethic is unreal which can cause increase in natural endocrine production.
    3.) He tested positive for a natural hormone, not winstrol, halostein, or masteron (Franca).
    4.) Hes WAYYY to smart to use an ester as long acting are durabolin, which can be detected for 18 months.
    5.) He took 22 supplement 3x per day... something may have triggered a natural increase, or maybe he had a tainted prohormone.

    I'm not saying he didn't get some tainted OC supp's but I don't believe he knowingly took steroids. I also don't think the CSAC would come out and just admit to being wrong. SO no matter what I don't think they would of cleared him.
     
  20. HandgunFantasy

    HandgunFantasy My purity you stole.

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    he eats supplement salad for breakfast...the size of that supplement basket they showed on all access was insane.

    he is still responsible for what he puts into his system. knowingly or not, he ingested performance enhancing drugs and is guilty of doping.
     
  21. Sylva

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    I wish i could find the report about that lab and how many botched results they've had in the past. I'll look for it.
     
  22. HandgunFantasy

    HandgunFantasy My purity you stole.

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    i dont know why people are sympathetic to people who dont "knowingly" take steroids. they DO know the risks of taking those supplements. any athlete who gets tested knows the risks.
     
  23. Sylva

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    So should athletes not take anything, if something is tainted ie: not listed on the ingredients they should be held accountable for that. they had NO way of knowing that it was tainted.

    :ugh:
     
  24. 2ofdem

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    Yes he did he fucked up coming off a cycle and got done.
     
  25. HandgunFantasy

    HandgunFantasy My purity you stole.

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    no but swimmers, etc etc all have this same problem. it is nothing new and a lot of people have no problem picking supplements that are kosher. they have to be VERY careful about what they take.

    for example, not taking a "clean" supplement from a company that also produces supplements with unapproved substances.
     

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