Dieting and training question for the well informed

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  1. Werdna

    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    Does your caloric amount matter as long as you're in the same deficit? For instance, is it better to eat 2500 calories a day and burn 3500 calories, or eat 3500 calories and burn 4500 calories?

    Basically, is it better to eat more and be more active and eat less and be less active? Or does it matter? It seems like eating more would help to preserve more lean mass. :dunno:
     
  2. AznRyda

    AznRyda キモかわいい!

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    I wish I knew! cardio and GPP work on non lifting days is hard work. :o
     
  3. Natezilla

    Natezilla Ain't nothin' but a peanut.

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    It doesn't really matter as long as your macronutrient breakdown stays where it should be in terms of proper protein intake mainly.
     
  4. broman

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    depends on your hormone state (like everything else), but in general you're right; most folks stay leaner eating more calories (assuming the same deficit and nutrient breakdown).

    more food = more protein/vits/fiber and eating more often = more lean mass retention

    If you're trying to cut after a bulk, it's much better to eat more and be more active.
     
  5. Werdna

    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    wouldn't the increased exercise result in periods of greater catabolism leading to greater muscle loss? or no? :dunno:
     
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  7. Werdna

    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    how did i know you'd say that? :o
     
  8. mEds

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    minutia aka small details
    un-important

    it is a word
     
  9. KetchupKing

    KetchupKing New Member

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    He's saying we're worried about details so small, the stress of worrying about it going to cause more harm than whatever benefit we'll get from figuring it out.


    That said, I do recall a few pros saying that keeping the same defecit at a higher caloric intake is better for maintaining muscle and losing fat, and the converse is true for gaining as well.

    Burning an extra 500 cals from running and then eating 500 cals more is going to give better results than just sitting on your ass and doing nothing. This is presuming you stay below overtraining of course. These were annecdotal advice from some pros, some I'm not sure how much of a difference that would make to the average person, and I dont recall seeing any scientific evidence to either support or refute these claims.
     
  10. broman

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    True at the scale of the local muscle. Whole body-wise, it's very unlikely that you'd see more wasting. Both exercise and eating encourage muscle retention, whereas a caloric deficit encourages muscle loss (much more in some people than others).
     
  11. broman

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    totally agree. fun, tho
    :noes:
     
  12. Werdna

    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    :werd:

    I can only stand so many "eat more" and "train legs" threads. :hs:
     
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    I wouldn't mind a few more of those.
     
  14. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    WHY MUST YOU BUMP OLD THREADS

    FUCK lc
     
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    :rofl: This one got me, I though good 'ol Werdna was posting :rofl:
     
  16. tenxia

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    what the fuck is wrong with mods and old threads? I always thought it'd be better to find a thread that's been started and post in it?

    I was over at t-nation forums and some guy scolded me for the same thing.

    Is it because mods are hoping for old threads to be deleted after a period of time?
     
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