Designer Steroid/prohormone profiles

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  1. el es dee

    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    Methoxy-TST
    Innovator: Bioscience Technologies
    Nomenclature: 17b-methoxytrienosterone
    Pill size: 2mg
    Dosages: The label recommends 2-6mg daily, but many users report only noticing effects when dosed at 8-12mg.
    Side effects: Low liver toxicity. Some users say this is a libido killer, yet others say the exact opposite. Other users report sides of thinning hair/hair loss.
    Reputation: Seemingly underdosed, methoxy-TST could be considered an underrated designer, as many users have reported some substantial gains with higher dosages.


    Epistane/Havoc/Hemaguno
    Innovators: IBE, RPN, Spectra Force
    Nomenclature: 2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
    Pill Size: 10mg or 12.5mg depending on what brand you use
    Dosages: 20-50mg
    Side Effects: Milder on liver and lipid levels than other methyls. Known to cause lower back and calf pumps.
    Reputation: There has had some spectroscopy and compound identification issues with these products, but from personal experience with it, is still a solid product. Many users have taken this compound as a solo run for gynecomastia reduction due to it's SERM-like and anti-aromatase properties. It is also a popular compound for use with the 'pulse method' of taking orals. Users can expect to see significant gains in both strength and mass.


    Pheraplex:
    Innovator: Designer Supplements
    Nomenclature: 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
    Pill Size: 10mg
    Dosages: 10-40mg
    Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profile, lower back and calf pumps, some users report aggrevation of gynecomastia with this compound.
    Reputation: Solid product for bulking. Wet gains. It is a sometimes used to jumpstart an injectable cycle. This is the less androgenic isomer in the Ergomax LMG matrix.


    Ergomax LMG
    Innovator: ALRI
    Nomenclature: 17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane & 17-methyl-delta-3-etioallocholane
    Pill Size: 10mg
    Dosages: 10-40mg
    Side effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, lower back and calf pumps, may aggrevate gynecomastia.
    Reputation: Again pretty solid for bulking. Users can expect similar gains as with pheraplex.


    Superdrol:
    Innovator: Designer Supplements
    Nomenclature: 2a, 17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one
    Pill size: 10mg
    Dosages: 10-30mg
    Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, hypoglycemia lower back and calf pumps, some users report agrivation of gynecomastia with this compound. From personal experience, it gives me a wicked rebound, that causes some flare-up.
    Reputation: Side effects vary from mild to extremely harsh, so use caution if planning your first run. Excellent dry gains. Great for bulking or cutting. Explosive strength gains.
    This is a methylated form of Drostanolone (Masteron)


    Methoxy-TRN
    Innovator: ALRI
    Nomenclature: 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone
    Pill size: 1.5mg
    Dosages: 1.5-6mg
    Side effects: Affects libido (some positively some negatively), can aggrevate gynecomastia. May cause thinning hair/ hair loss. Also another progestin.
    Reputation: This guy is a real hit or miss. Some users loved the stuff, while others did not notice anything from it. From personal experience, I've noticed increases in strength as well as decreases in bodyfat.


    Halodrol-50
    Innovator: Gaspari Nutrition
    Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-1,4-diene-3,17 diol
    Pill Size: 50mg
    Dosages: 25-75mg
    Side effects: Heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps
    Reputation: Milder than superdrol or pheraplex. Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle.
    This is a prosteroid of Turinabol.

    Prostanozol/ Orasan-E
    Innovators: ALRI, Gaspari Nutrition
    Nomenclature: [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
    Pill size: 25mg
    Dosages: 50-150mg (Although it is not uncommon to go much higher than this)
    Side effects: very few sides. Some users report thinning hair/hair loss.
    Reputation: Possibly the most mild of the designers, this compound is rarely run standalone. It is often stacked with a methyl compound for a lean bulk or cut. Very mild, yet easily maintained gains.
    This is a de-alkylated derivative of Stanozol (winstrol).


    Finigenix Magnum
    Innovators: PharmagenX
    Nomenclature: Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
    Dosages: 50-75mg
    Side effects: aggrevation of gynecomastia. This is a progestin (it can convert to trenbolone). Expect tren-like sides.
    Reputation: Though there hasn't been much logged on this bad boy, those who've used it have liked it. This is a prohormone to Tren.

    Propadrol:
    Innovator: EST Nutrition
    Nomenclures: 12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene &
    6-17 dihydroxyetiocholone-3-ol proponate
    Dosages: 1-2 caps daily
    Side effects: low side effects
    Reputation: User's who've taken it have reported great decreases in bodyfat, while increasing musclemass and strength. Not much data is present on this compound within this forum. NOTE: this is does not contain the same compound as Max LMG. They are close, but no cigar.


    Max LMG
    Innovator: ALRI
    Nomenclature: 13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one
    Pill size: 25mg
    Dosages: 25-135mg daily
    Side effects: Can easily aggrevate gynecomastia. May be a libido killer. This is another progestin.
    Reputation: A bulking compound through and through. Users can expect great recovery, and soaking WET gains.


    M-1,4ADD
    Innovator: unknown
    Nomenclature: 17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol
    Dosages: 30-90mg daily
    Side effects: heptatoxicity, slight possibility to aggrevate gyno
    Reputation: Great for a bulk. Somewhat wet gains, and decent strength gains. This is a prohormone of Dianabol. However, since dianabol and Boldenone are so very similar, it is believed that the actions of this prohormone are more similar to boldenone than to dianabol (methylboldenone).

    1,4 AD
    Innovator: Molecular Nutrition
    Dosages: 300-600mg
    Nomenclature: 1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
    Side effects: Mild
    Reputation: Very weak and not very cost-efficient at the moment. This compound is often stacked with a methyl to potentiate and accelerate gains. Cycles are usually run at a MINIMUM of 4 weeks as this one takes a few weeks to 'kick in'. Slow, steady, and easily maintainable gains. This is a prohormone of Boldenone.

    Promagnon-25
    Innovator: Peak Performance Labs
    Dosages: 25-75mg
    Nomenclature:4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
    Side effects: The usual sides associated with methylated compounds (heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps)
    Reputation: Very similar to that of Halodrol-50, although people who've tried both seem to prefer Halodrol. For a while a lot of people were conviced that these two products were one in the same. Rest assured, they are not. This is a methyl derivative of clostebol.


    Oxyguno
    Innovator: Spectra Force
    Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17 -methyl- etioallochol-4-ene- 17 -ol-3,11-dione
    Pill Size: 7.5mg
    Dosages: 7.5-22.5mg daily
    Side effects: Heptatoxicity from 17a-methylation. Very low androgenic sides.
    Reputation: Despite popular belief, this is not the most myotrophic designer out there: it has the highest Q factor. It is actually only about 77% as myotrophic as the active present in Havoc/Epistane/Hemaguno. Users taking Oxyguno can expect mass gains as well as excellent fatloss. Due to it's incredibly low androgenic ratio, strength gains are not as pronounced.

    Furaguno/ Ortasan-A
    Innovators: Spectra Force / Gaspari Nutrition
    Pill Size: 33mg
    Nomenclature: 5a0androstano[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
    Dosages: 33-99mg daily
    Side Effects: very mild
    Reputation: Supposedly lowers cholesterol, increases androgenic receptor activity, and does not induce any heptatoxicity. This product is too young on the market to have developed a reputation yet. Get some, log it, and let us know so I can update this compound's profile. This is a prosteroid to furazabol.

    3-AD / 11-oxo
    Innovator: Anabolic Xtreme / Ergopharm
    Pill Size: 150mg
    Dosages: 450mg
    Nomenclature: andrenosterone, 11-oxo-androstenedione, or 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione (all mean the same thing)
    Side effects: Mild
    Reputation: This prohormone has a great affinity for blocking up cortisol receptors. User's report great changes in body composition, namely significant fatloss.
     
  2. jokka

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    hmm.. too many numbers and words ending in one.
     
  3. el es dee

    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    im thinking of stacking them all at once. you think ill gain some weight?
     
  4. Mogul

    Mogul New Member

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    Yeah but probably just water weight.
     
  5. el es dee

    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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  6. michael

    michael FLORIDA > *

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    this thread is better of not being on this board..
     
  7. pkr

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    sick ill do an AD cycle:

    - M-1,4ADD
    - 1,4 AD
    - 3-AD
     
  8. el es dee

    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    people keep asking about different types of designers, so why not? they can get the info, all the stuff is legal.
     
  9. maxxpower

    maxxpower OG Lauren Crew - Observer OT Supporter

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    they are all shit and you shouldnt waste your money or body on them.
    If the only driving force behind someone using a prohormone or designer steroid is the "quazi" fucking legalese, then you're a fool.

    These drugs are NOT proven under any circumstances.
    These drugs are NOT regulated and in many instances have caused major side effects.

    If you believe its time to take a step towards prohormones, then dont fucking kid yourself and put your body through untested,unknown and possibly dangerous drugs. Just get the real shit, at least there is THOUSANDS of research stats available to you.
     
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    i don't take any of that shit but plenty of people do and they're legal so why shouldn't they be on the board? there are endless supplement threads here what's the difference
     
  11. dumbaznboy

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    11-oxo is a prohormone?

    GNC sells prohormones?

    wat the hell
     
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    dumbaznboy New Member

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    uhh....wait...

    11-oxo or 6-oxo...which is sold at GNC...heh
     
  13. xSteveO

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    you just said the same thing
     
  14. dumbaznboy

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    really? oh ok...

    then my original question stands....6-/11-oxo is a prohormone?
     
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    i put pro hormones up my butthole.
     
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    I don't see the problem with this thread either... :dunno:
     
  17. PaddoK

    PaddoK Some dolphins get massacred, some dolphins get blo

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    Seems like good info. Thanks for the post.

    Regulars: have you guys ever tried to not intentionally fuck up a thread with a bunch of dumb comments? Perhaps, if you gave this place a chance to change, it might.
     
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    i dont get some of the adjectives they use :/

    wet gains, pump, etc, etc
     
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    good job cutting and pasting :greddy:
     
  20. pkr

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    Fixed
     
  21. pkr

    pkr Guest

    Wet gain= wet dreams
    Pump = boners
     
  22. el es dee

    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    good job noticing
     
  23. el es dee

    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    11oxo is not 6 oxo. 6 oxo is an anti estrogen compound. 11 oxo is very different
     
  24. el es dee

    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    wet gains = water retention pump = hmmm, its the feeling of alot of blood being in one area, making the skin hot and feel stretched
     
  25. GTLifter

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    :rofl: @ the jonno method



    On a serious note, this shit shouldn't be here because most have no fucking business touching the stuff. If you want to learn about PH's/AAS either go to one of the dedicated boards or PM those who know about them.
     
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