SRS Deep deppression

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  1. American SuperBeast

    American SuperBeast New Member

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    Right now i am in like a serious deppression and i have been for like 3 months. Nothing seems worth it to me and a girl whom i asked out after we have been friends for a while just stopped talking to me and completely ignores me. That is what sent me farther in this deppresion. I just lately have been thinking things like i am not worth it because it seems like it. No one has really cared about me. This girl that i care about after she started ignoring me and just put me out of her life entirely now i just cannot stop thinking about her. I have tried but it is simply impossible. I need to like somehow get out of this because it is ruining my life with my family and all my friends because they tried to do something but when they did i thought i didn't need any help but now they are just falling away from me. There is nothing left for me.
    People dont understand me
    I AM NOT OK. I dont even know why i bother staying. Why i even bother staying in peoples life because they can't like it because i guess it seems all i do is complain but there is more to it than complain because i really dont believe in myself at all.

    It just seems like i am failing at life and i need to leave. I just needed to say this somewhere because no one else will listen so i am hoping that people here will even if i don't know them. I need some type of encouragement because no one is saying anything but negative things to me. Not even my family.
    Thank you for at least reading it.
     
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    Hey hang in there man. I've seen people have to go through worse. Keep looking toward the b right sid,e, whatever it is. As for that girl, there's plenty more people out there willing to care. You can forget about her. If you're still in high school, try the social worker, I know ours is real helpful to some people. Their real easy to open up to and that's their speciality. Plus you can miss some class ;)

    Remmeber that when you hit rock bottom the only place to go is up.
     
  3. Felix

    Felix Its good to be me.

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    Whats got you down man? I'm sure things don't seem that great right now but eventually things will get better. Just try to stay positive and good things will happen. I know it's easier said than done but it's true.
     
  4. svetlanalemon

    svetlanalemon A little blood and vomit on the car seat...

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    No one can help you get out of this but YOURSELF. unless you yourself have the strength and the courage to look past the shortcomings in you that EVERYONE else has as well, you will never get up from this.

    And you aren't alone in your strife, many, many people have been through depression, and by through i mean, through and out of it. You are bigger than your sadness, your melancholy...

    You can't trust the negative thoughts in your head, and you should try finding a hobby... or start working out, etc, you're worth these things, so go for it.

    Otherwise it will just be an endless cycle of self-pity.
    Put yourself first.
     
  5. ebbnflo

    ebbnflo REAL- LAOT Hermit

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    Nearly word for word what I would say.
    I am currently being treated for depression. It SUCKS like a $5 whore to try and work your way through it, but it IS possible.
    Hang in.
     
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    Yea now even more shit to add Since i am only 17 and i dont have my own house yet or ne thing Just recently my garage and a few of my neighbors cars got spraypainted and the cops got called on me because i am known to have spray paint and i was going to be arrested until the neighbors dropped any and all charges against me. This wasn't even me doing it. I don't personally like my neighbors but then why would i do it to myself. Instead of and juvy or jail time i am put on probation and i have to do like 100 hrs of community service. That just adds on to what my parents have done like take away my car keys.(my car is under my own insurance and i bought it but...it is still on their property and so am i thats why i cant do anything about that but everything just sucks right now because they haven't found the person who did that and I will be continually blamed.
     
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    If you're deeply depressed, then nothing is going to pull you out of it except medicine. You can't think your way out.
     
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    ebbnflo REAL- LAOT Hermit

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    DITTO THAT TOO.
    Also another very real possibility.(part of my treatment is Rx meds) ARE you on meds currently? Can you talk to your parents or SOMEONE about seeing a doctor for a "screening" for depression?
     
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    wow, you win the award for the worst advice EVER.

    need not take into consideration the terrible withdrawl symptoms when you TRY and get off these meds. also, the fact that all they are doing is masking the symptoms of depression and not fixing the cause of them. you need to start viewing your life in a posative way. everything happens for a reason man. maybe if you and this chic got together, you woulda been with her one day, and she woulda gotten in a car crash and you woulda been hurt. maybe thats why it happened like this. but you always need to think that when one door closes dozens and dozens open, only if you let them. there are so many things you can be doing now. there are thousands of chics out there for you. this wasn't the one for you man, but if you don't lift up, there might be a chic waiting for you right now, thats gonna forget about you cuz your too stuck in one place. i would see a therapist, and start dealing with the actual problem of depression, your THOUGHTS. no medication is going to change the way you think. only your brain can reteach yourself how to think. that is where therapy, CBT, hypnosis, and things like that come in. everyone is WAY too quick to jump into medication, that they don't even stop and think about what the actual problem is, and where its coming from. how is taking a pill going to make you feel better about yourself. well, it will, until you stop taking the pill. the increase serotonin in your brain. the same effect excasy has only in a controlled and much smaller way. but, once you stop, there is withdrawl. and you've been so happy with meds, NOW.... you need to learn how to be happy without the meds. please man, you are so young, and your just in a teenage rut with some normal stuff. everyone feels low points in their life, but, i dunno how paxil is going to cure you of that. you need to get to the root of the problem, fix the CAUSE, not the symptoms. reteach your brain how to think. don't trick it into thinking your ok when your not. if you broke your leg.... would you want to take asprin for the pain, or fix the break? once the asprin is worn off, the pain will still be there cuz you didn't fix whats CAUSING the pain. thats all bro. good luck, and please take some steps before getting on meds.
     
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  11. Peyomp

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    Sigh.
     
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    care to elaborate? or maybe even explain your thoughts on how increasing the level of serotonin in your brain will perminantly change how one THINKS? i'd be really interested how a man made drug will alter the way i percieve my life and the things around me.
     
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    thanks for teh advice i will probably seek help from a counseler or someone. This is honestly the first place i got good advice so thanks
     
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    Are you for real ? I can't see a mental health professionnal giving this kind of advice. I guess it could almost be said that it would be irresponsible for someone to say that they shouldn't take meds.

    Meds + psychotherapy have been shown to be more effective than either of them alone (I guess I should make an EDU about that...). I have to agree that meds aren't the solution to the problem though, but they are the key that lets you open the door to your remission. Meds help those who are depressed to get rid of some of the symptoms and frees their mind and it's easier to change the way you think when your mood is "neutral" (or with less depression symptoms) that if you have to fight both the symptoms and the irrational ideas that lead to depression.

    Meds (short term solution) + psychotherapy (long term solution) are the most effective way to go. When the person feels better, the doctor will be able to decrease the meds slowly until they're completly gone and until the person can go on with his life without the irrational thoughts that lead to depression.
    Some people don't need meds though, everyone is different, but I'm going to go with what has been proven more effective.
     
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    Well, HOW will it help, no one is sure, but if it helps, yes, it does. You seem to be against medication, and here's something for you : increasing serotonin helps people with depression but there are other ways to higher these levels. Jogging has been shown to be as effective as anti-depressant over a one year span because of the effects of sports on neurotransmitters. After a year, jogging was more effective. Plus, sports' side-effects are positive (better health) while anti-depressants' are mostly negative.
    After a year, sports was more effective than anti-depressants. So there's NO reason to be against the fact that serotonin levels have an effect on mood, but there are ways that are better than others. Meds can be useful for depressed people though because they tend not to be able to have enough motivation to begin to jog. Getting a little help with meds can be a step to one's remission, but definetly not the solution.
     
  16. svetlanalemon

    svetlanalemon A little blood and vomit on the car seat...

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    i think the person you are quoting felt the need to reply because peyomp said that meds were the ONLY way to go in this sort of situation.
    truth be told, life isnt ever going to be perfect. there are going to be tough times in your life, and high times, but a quick fix isnt going to change a mindset, or help you to learn for the future, etc...
    i am not so COMPLETELY opposed to meds ( though i doubt that i would ever take them ) but they definetely should be the last resort...definetely NOT the first thing that you'd jump to... as meds in the us are being handed out like candy currently.
     
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    i posted that because the twit before me said meds were the only answer. i don't care what you think, but if i am in deep depression and just start popping zoloft, in 1 year, i doubt i will be cured to the point i can come off meds and live a normal life. when i was struggling, i took .25 - .5 of xanax as needed, but was working mainly with therapy and finally, hypnosis. and there is a huge difference between jogging to NATURALLY increase serotonin, and taking a man made drug that will just start producing it UNATURALLY. it hasn't even been proven that a decrease in serotonin is even the cause of depression or anxiety, it has only been a possible cause. well, possible isn't enough of an answer for me to start taking drugs. i think the best thing to do is try CBT, hypnosis, therapy, and those types of things first. if then, you still need to kind of take the edge off, then have a doctor put you on something like xanax. just something to help you relax, and calm down. if all else fails, i guess prolonged medication would be the answer in conjunction with therapy and all. i dunno, maybe i was just lucky to get past debilitating anxiety and panic with a little xanax and 1 session of hypnosis. to each his own.
     
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    Well, there's our answer. You suggest that talking a medication against anxiety will help against depression ? It depends if the main problem IS depression or if the depression is caused by another thing, which might be anxiety. Then, taking a pill against anxiety would be the way to go but if the main problem is major depressive disorder, the best way to go is anti-depressant combined with psychotherapy.

    You're right, there's nothing that proves that serotonin is the absolute cause of depression but studies have shown that medications that treat this problem can be helpful. Medication against cancer isn't 100% effective either nor is any other medication. But depression can be deadly in certain cases (suicide) and it should be taken seriously and treated as soon as they can by using the most effective tools they have, which is medication combined with psychotherapy. Chose whatever you want, but the only way for me to be honest is to say that the combination of both is more effective that either of them alone.
     
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    so u have to do community service. the justice system sucks
     
  20. civicmon

    civicmon got all my game from the streets of california.

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    doesn't matter that you're right... the whole 'meds are a crutch' crowd will come out and shame him into living his life in misery since depression is chemical.

    don't take my word for it though...
     
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    the meds for anxiety and depression are the same. they use zoloft, paxil, welbutrin, xanax, diazapan, all these things. another reason why i don't trust em. cuz they are used for so many different things. its like, your not happy, you worry, anything, just increase the serotonin and you'll be on cloud 9 and won't care. so, whatever, its not my choice, so take drugs if you choose. its your life. but, i went against what my doctors told me when they put me on paxil, zoloft, seroquil, xanax and valium, and i went the natural route and was cured in 1 hour. even after they told me i had a chemical imbalance and would need to be on meds. so, good luck.
     
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    svetlanalemon A little blood and vomit on the car seat...

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    Depression manifests in a chemical inbalance, but the cause isnt a chemical inbalance. The cause is in the external, in the thing we call life, the world.....
    The pharmaceutical company is booming in america right now. It is a huge business. You can't believe everything that's told to you in advertising, that depression is merely a chemical inbalance and can be "fixed". Why do humans need to be "fixed", anyway? It is a human condition to be vulnerable to the world, to the external, and it is a human ability to rise up from it, with help, guidance from other people, perhaps such as therapists.
    We're not machines, you don't "need" to be a certain way, the ups and downs of life are what make you- and if you need help for something like depression, you have someone to talk to and someone who will guide you, in therapy. And if all else fails and you are at the end of the rope, that is when you turn to medication.

    Again, im not opposed to medication completely, but you shouldn't turn to solely medication immediately as your first option. You should be confident in seeking other channels of help, such as therapy and exercise, before deciding to take medication.
    Mind altering drugs are nothing to be messed with, unless you have sought help from other sources, before. Last resort.
     
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    Holy time to get up on my soapbox Batman. After my initial brain surgery for the aneurysm, I developed panic attacks and was agraphobic. It was a terrible time. I was fortunate enough to be in Montreal and got hooked up with the Behavoiral Science Unit at the Montreal General. I took CBT in combination with seeing a Shrink and taking Luvox. The CBT was the best thing I ever did. Zap! 8 months later the panic attacks/agoraphobia was gone and I have not had problems in that area since.
    15 years later and I now have severe depression. Things are not going well, some days are however, better than others. I've applied all the things I had learned in CBT in terms of self-help, relaxing, self-talk, etc. but, depression to difficult to battle. It is like having a stain on one's brain that will not wash out. So I see a shrink, a neuropsychologist, take Effexor, have back up Ativan (which I very rarely take) and Zopiclone to help me sleep. I agree that physical activity helps and I gave up my morning run last May. I plan to take it up again in the Spring.
    It seems as though depression can not be "willed" away like anxiey/panic attacks. Self-talk has been useless. I don't know why that is, but it is.
    If the truth be known, I'd take anxiety over depression any day.

    ~Climbing off my soapbox~
     
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    ebbnflo REAL- LAOT Hermit

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    I see nothing wrong with this comment.
    This is coming from a person who is on Welbutrin currently, granted.(I am talking about ME, not peyomp) But, also from a person who believes pharmaceuticals in general are the SUCK.(but don't get me started on them)
    BTW not ALL anti depressant drugs are seratonin reuptake inhibitors. The one I am on currently, affects dopamine and norepinephrine. I am not thrilled to be on Rx, because I prefer to go the holistic route 1st, and I did, but to little avail, so this was a last resort kind of choice for me. And, while I would rather not have had to rely on Rx to help me pull through, I AM glad that I swallowed my pride and did it anyway, and, I think my daughters, if they were old enough to understand, would be glad that I chose the Rx, and not a running car motor in my closed up garage to deal with my mental agony.

    IF this youngster (The OP) IS in fact in a DEEP chemical DEPRESSION, then it IS very possible that an Rx may be the thing to help him start recovering.
    Of course, explore all options, but in some cases, it's very obvious that an immediate chemical assist could help more than anything else, and THEN the other options can be utilized.
     
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    ebbnflo REAL- LAOT Hermit

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    I don't know one person who has been to cloud 9 and didn't care after taking Rx anti-depressants. I am certainly not on cloud nine.....probably more like cloud 4-5 maybe. LOL
    And, I certainly DO still care, deeply.

    I also took St John's Wort for a good long while, and 5-htp (from griffonia seeds), as well, and went to therapy, and it just was not working out for me. I still do use other natural and homeopathic remedies, but for the fairly recent, heavy depression I was in, I personally benefitted from Rx assistance this time.(in addition to therapy, and behavior modification)
     

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