Debate: Empty-stomach morning cardio

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  1. M.A. Malone Esq.

    M.A. Malone Esq. OT Supporter

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    What are your feelings on it? I've always considered it a bad thing, but not understanding it to the fullest extent. But I also occassionally read that it is suggested.

    Thoughts? Feelings? Information? :)
     
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    Do it!
     
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    i feel cardio is fine in the morning, it just cant be on an empty stomach. i think i read somewhere that the cortisol levels were too high in the body and you end up burning muscle instead of anything else.

    personally, i don't feel right doing it. i always feel sick for an hour or two afterwards.
     
  4. M.A. Malone Esq.

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    I'f I'm not mistaken, cortisol levels are supposed to be lowest in the morning and are higher towards the night.... I'll look it up.

    EDIT- My mistake, you are right
     
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    doing it on an empty stomach in the morning is fine.
     
  6. JustBlazin

    JustBlazin Ironic Punishment

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    for me it depends on the extent of the cardio. if i'm running like 2-3km i'm ok but anything more than that i feel sick and run out of energy
     
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    its up to you. if you feel better doing it after eating then do it. as long as you feel fine the rest of the day. just dont do cardio right after a big breakfast. i usually puke when i do.
     
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    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    calories in, calories out
     
  9. pt

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    Sweet ! The weekly morning cardio thread ! !

    My opinion:

    1) Morning cardio = good
    2) Morning cardio on a empty stomach = "ok" but probably not optimal.
    3) Morning cardio on a full stomach = "ok" but probably not optimal
     
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    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    and we're defining emtpy and full how exactly? :hsugh:
     
  11. pt

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    Empty stomach = no food since the night before

    Full stomach = Solid food meal since the night before

    :dunno:
     
  12. Werdna

    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    so you're suggesting a snack? how many cals etc?
     
  13. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    what about immediately post workout? any studies on that?
     
  14. ACURA TL-S

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    I couldn't have said it better myself. In the end, it is all about the numbers. You don't burn any more calories in the morning than you do at night. If you burn proportionally more fat that just leaves more glycogen to be stored as fat later in the day.
     
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    I would say empty is not eating before and therefore lacking energy, full is stuffing yourself until you are about to puke after the first five minutes on the treadmill.
     
  16. pt

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    As much as I would love to agree, simplifying it like that goes against what I've seen and experienced in the limited time I've been lifting. Quotes like "just eat and lift" are the reason that my gym is full of mostly small, strong guys (with the exception of the huge juicers). And I say this with all due respect to large powerlifters like Christophers etc..

    I guess what I'm trying to say is try both, and experience the difference. I can guarantee there will be a dramatic difference between:

    1) Morning cardio vs. evening cardio in terms of appetite supression OR appetite stimulation
    2) Empty stomach vs. full stomach cardio vs. carbs/protein cardio
     
  17. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    If they ATE and lifted enough they wouldn't be small would they?
     
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    I've always done it that way. Even when I'm out on training jogs. I just usually eat a decent amount of carbs the night before.

    The longer jogs I take a packet or 2 of Gu along.

    I usually can't eat before a morning workout. If I do it's only like a bite or two of bread and I feel forced :sad2:
     
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    From what I've seen, I would guess that "enough" is the key word that fucks them over every day.
     
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    GND BBP! OT Supporter

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    you should of taken some Gu with you... cliff shots.. something :o

    Did you have fluids on you?
     
  21. Sgt. Ownage

    Sgt. Ownage you gon' be just fiiiine

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    i wouldnt do it on an empty stomach...seems too catabolic
     
  22. M.A. Malone Esq.

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    Just post them. This thread is for me, not faggots on this board.

    go go go
     
  23. TheMustafa

    TheMustafa hook 'em

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    i read a study in which they compared 4 groups of people doing cardio: 1 w/ 5mg yohimbine HCL in the morning, 1 w/o yohimbine in the morning, 1 w/ yohimbine afternoon, and 1 w/o yohimbine in the afternoon

    the yohimbine in the morning lost significantly more bodyfat vs. any other group, but the other three were about avg.
     
  24. ACURA TL-S

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    Hmmm...you mean that insulin kills the effects of yohimbine. iiiiiinnnntteresting.[​IMG]
     
  25. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Carbs do impair the absorption of yohimbine, or something along those lines. Whether its because of the sugars or the insulin.
     
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