Dealer installed "sealant" on a new car...

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  1. Steve Kerr

    Steve Kerr 6 Time NBA Champion OT Supporter

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    So I just bought a new car and they said they put a "sealant" on the car.

    Is that anything more than just a nice wax job or does it actually do anything?

    Does it require any additon maintaince. Do I need to reapply the "sealant" after a certain amount of time?

    Thanks all.

    :cheers:
     
  2. Steve Kerr

    Steve Kerr 6 Time NBA Champion OT Supporter

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    Oh and if it matters... its a Honda.
     
  3. perry

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    Probably nothing more than a poor wax job :o

    Do normal maintenance on the paint...
     
  4. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Rule #1 when buying a new car....Don't let the dealer wax or seal it. I don't care how high end the dealer is, 99 times out of 100, they don't know shit about proper waxing techniques. Dirty wool pads and a high speed rotary is their usual procedure which guarantees buffer swirls and white residue in every crevice and emblem.

    I really hope you didn't pay extra for this.

    I would use a good polish or swirl remover to clean the paint and remove their junk and then use the wax or sealant you want.
     
  5. Steve Kerr

    Steve Kerr 6 Time NBA Champion OT Supporter

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    Unfortunately... it was done to the car as part of the "pre-prep" process before the car even goes on sale.

    No, I didn't pay for it. They tried to charge me $1500 for the "Arizona Package" which has door trim molding, wheel well molding, tint and "paint sealant".

    I laughed and said I wouldn't pay for it.



    On a side note....


    Scottwax: can you recommend a PROFESSIONAL detailer (like yourself) in the phoenix area, I don't know if you have any contacts or friends in phoenix or not, but I would appreciate if you could point me in a direction where I could look to find someone... like a website or a list or something.

    Thanks!
     
  6. Jackhole

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    Autopia has a section for finding detailers in your area. :dunno:
     
  7. mycoplasma

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  8. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Yep. I don't know offhand who in Phoenix is real good.
     
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    LOL, my dad bought a new toyota. In the glove box was a bottle with "vehicle protection package" on the front of it. I oopened it up, seems to be cleaner wax.

    I wonder how much they charge for the "protection package"
     
  10. perry

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    Southeastern Toyota dealerships charge like $600 for the Toyo Guard Protection Package... paint, undercarriage, maybe some interior protection, and VIN etching on windows.

    link

    HUGE markup on it!
     
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    Well at least they do something. I was thinking the bottle of cleaner wax was the entire protection package.
     
  12. autoracer1

    autoracer1 Rallyx postponed :wtc: Next one May 10.

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    At my dealership, and I cant say how much because I am bound by a confidentiality agreement, lets just say that the markup from cost on the full "pro pack" rust, undercoat, paint, fabric is somewhere around 1000%.
     
  13. M3-DIS

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    Haha, u fucking drive a Honda?? AHAHAHAHAHA
     
  14. Morgan06

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    I've actually ran a multitude of new car dealer detail departments in my day, and can honestly tell you this stuff is overpriced- but I have used it on personal vehicles and it works.

    Most of the dealerships I've been involved with used the Simoniz System 5 paint protection on their purchases. The parts department pays nearly $110 for the product- it's not the Teflon or the shine you're paying for- its the warranty. This product was actually guaranteed by Traveler's or the Hartford insurance groups, for a certain number of months against paint stains, etching, etc.

    That said, new car buyers often pay upwards of $300-$500 for this sealant. Before leaving my last job, I had in my possession nearly 30 separate packages and could only get $25 each on Ebay. Still have 4 or so if anyone's interested. PM me.
     
  15. Scottwax

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    ...and it is a pretty worthless warranty. Modern clear coats will usually hold up to bird bombs, etc with very minimal care, plus most of the so called 5-year warranties specify reapplication at regular intervals to keep the warranty in force. Miss a reapplication, too bad. Plus, few people these days actually keep their cars 5 years and when they pass along any paperwork on the car to the new buyer (assuming a private sale), the new owner probably will file away the warranty and never look at it again.

    I'd be willing to bet the insurance groups maybe pay out a handful of claims a year for the entire country.

    Alway, alway, always, decline the dealer sealant package. Regular polishing and waxing will not only protect your car well but after 5 years, a car that is regularly maintained is going to look significantly better than a car that had some miracle sealant applied 5 years ago then never touched beyond washing since.
     
  16. keleko

    keleko yes, he is

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    how about south florida?

    i got a load of pits/chips on the front end that need to be filled, and 2 minor dents in the left rear door, and the whole thing needs a good going-over inside and out
     
  17. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    If your area isn't covered in the pro detailers list, it is because I don't know anyone in that area to recommend.

    Register at http://autopia.org and make a detailer request in the proper regional forum.
     
  18. Run N. Gun

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    Me neither, and I live here. I will help a fellow OT'r out and take care of your car for free. I can also teach you what I've learned here, that way you can do it yourself, if you want. :wavey:

    If you want a pro detailer (I'm not a pro), my brother uses one for his show cars and I can get the info for you. On a side note worth mentioning, my brother always tells me that my cars' paint look better than his. :mamoru:
     
  19. RyRy

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    It's really sad that dealer sales people can actually make people believe they don't have to wax their cars for 5 years if they pay xxxx dollars for this "sealant". I have had a few people that I know that have fallen for it, and less then a few months later they wonder why their car doesn't bead up anymore when the paint is wet :rofl: I even went so far as to attack 1/2 of my cousins 07 Suburban with a Meguiars 3 step and do nothing to the other 1/2 just to show her the difference when it was a month old. She truly did the :eek5: this winter when we went shopping and keep in mind it's been 6+ months since I last touched it with any thing besides a drive thru auto wash and the 1/2 that I did with Meg still beads up and the other 1/2.. nothing :rofl:
     
  20. thomor25

    thomor25 I make money online....

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    it was probably simonize that was put on the honda
     
  21. Run N. Gun

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    ...and this thread is 2.5 years old...:rolleyes:
     
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