Deadlift: train with or without straps?

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  1. Layman

    Layman New Member

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    I plan on entering my first competition in a few months (not that I'll be competitive by any means, but I want to do it nonetheless).


    My DL is coming along nicely, but it's still mostly grip-limited.

    Is there any advantage to slapping on some straps to make sure I'm giving my back all the workout it can handle? Or should I continue to train as I would compete (as I have read)?
     
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    I always deadlift without straps BUT I rack pull without them until it gets so heavy that my grip fails and then I use them. You can get your back stronger by using them, you just can't use a strapped up rack pull as an indicator of deadlift strength.
     
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    I try not to use them, but if I'm having a really tough time holding on to the bar, I'll use them. I don't want my grip to be the limiting factor in me giving up on deads for the day.
     
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    Okay, so DL without and rack pull with. That sounds like a good idea. Thanks!
     
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    I'm going thru the same dilema right now. I am extremely hindered by my grip while pulling. I have NEVER used straps on a full range deadlift until last week. I am going to start doing more grip work, but I am also going to strap up once my grip gives out pulling because I know my back can handle more. It isn't fair to my back and PC to have a workout stopped because I can't hold onto the weight.
     
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    hitmikey DRIVEN FROM WITHIN

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    do both?
     
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    Formz Hipster Santa OT Supporter

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    Well, is it grip or is it moisture that's holding you back?

    Honestly, my grip has yet to fail me, but the problem was my palms were so sweaty I couldn't hold shit. And (IBceaze) chalk has helped me so much.
     
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    Don't use straps until you have too (i.e. grip fails) but when you get to that point start doing some grip work. Although you would be better off starting the grip work before that happens.
     
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    michael FLORIDA > *

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    maine, your grip sucks that much?

    I think I happen to have a naturally strong grip.. straps hurt my wrists too much - chalk ftw.
     
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    no straps for the most part IMO.

    maybe so some extra sets with grips, but if you can't hold the bar, all the back strength in the world won't help you in the competition
     
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    dude....no offense but you pull less then 400, you don't have a naturally strong grip....
     
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    would it make sense at all that my mixed grip pull without straps feels stronger going up than if i double overhanded with straps at the same weight?

    or is that more of a mental thing
     
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    Good point. It's likely moisture, too, although I try to control that (no chalk in my gym :o).

    GT, you're right about the grip work - I should be working on that, too...
     
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    Try a rosin bag from a bowling alley.
     
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    Oh yeah? Cool - I'll pick one up.
     
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    Yeah, they're only a few bucks and will help your grip alot and they don't make a mess.
     
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    dude...sarcasm detector.
     
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    or you can just throw a brick of chalk into a sock
     
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    straps dont prevent the bar from rolling, so roll-prevention from a mixed grip would still help more (as far as i'm concerned, and from my experience).. use a mixed grip WITH straps :eek4:
     
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    I'm having the same problem.
     
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    Nope. I've used straps one time and I used mixed grip every time above 365.

    From my experience, straps do everything a mixed grip does and about 100% more...
     
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    yes they do :hsugh:
     
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    ahh shit....my bad...



    I'm going to try the chalk in a sock......hey that rhymed...
     
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    gtlifter has a valid point...

    i didnt notice a problem with grip, specifically left hand grip until i tried pulling 400+ and damn did that shit slip out of my left hand quickly
     
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    As has been pointed out by the answers, it just depends what you're trying to accomplish with that specific deadlift movement that day.
     
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