deadlift form help v. post surgery

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  1. evolude

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    looks like you're going heavier than you can handle with good form, not trying to be a prick or anything, i have knee problems and lower back issues os i am a wimp with deads and stay light as hell and keep my back straight etc, looks like your form is decent but i bet your straining your lower back a bit with it curved like that.
    just my opinion and i'm really not trying to be a dick head or nothing
     
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    kit99bar USPA Class 2, weak, old man!

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    did we watch the same vid? his back looks pretty damn straight to me.
    In to see the advice given.

     
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    You're form looks good to me. Your bar grip looks a little narrow but I guess do what ever is comfortable. What did you have surgery on?
     
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    Your back isn't straight and your ass is too high.
     
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    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459744

    keep your lowerback tight. sticking your chest out and looking straight or little up helps maintain posture.
    is there any reason you cant start the weight off the floor? walking the weight is watsed effort.
     
  7. Skeletor

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    a lot of people will tell you that you need to get your ass as low as possible... maybe for a perfect conventional dead this is true...



    personally I find it hard to progress just by doing these. I start with my butt a little higher than people here reccomend, but my spine is neutral and I never feel any bad strains... IMO it's all about keeping your core as tight as possible and, for me, keeping the head up. Even on 1RM's when my spine curves a good amount, I don't get injured or feel pain.... All my working sets are done with my posture at about as good as it gets.
     
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    it isn't bad, it's just not straight straight, if you have a good back probalby won't matter but if you got a fucked up lower back (which i do) that little bit of a curve is gonna lead straight to a week in bed and lots of ice and muscle relaxers lol
     
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    just wanted to say yous looking big mang
     
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    your square one is 6 plates :wtc:
     
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    lower your ass. if you start from a lower ass position, you will use the strongest muscles in your body. You can avoid strain on your back if you start in a lower position using your legs to initiate the movement, as it is right now they are barely involved. also what kind of surgery did you have?
     
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    for all those asking: Evo had knee surgery.
     
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    reset on every rep

    start from the floor. to load plates just slide a 2.5 underneath

    lower back is rounded. i've been told that everyone will deadlift differently so maybe you won't be as good with your ass super low (especially cuz of your leg injury) but focus on not rounding the lower back. try driving your head backwards so you're almost look up/behind you at the top.
     
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    full reconstructive PCL surgery on Jan. 31, 2007
     
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    holding it at shoulder width there... what's textbook?
     
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    that's most comfortable for me, too

    get your butt lower... it's going to take a while to get the hip flexibility (at least it did for me), but you'll get a better workout as a result
     
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    I think most people can pull more if they start lower and use a lot of legs.
     
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    i agree that most people can pull more with conventional DLs but a PR isn't an issue or the point of this thread
     
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    Thats a bullshit SLDL, nobody using anytype of weight is gonna be that straight, Maybee on A RDL..

    My advice is as follows.
    Sitting BACK more is gonna get your knees behind the bar and your shoulders, both good things. Why are you unracking the weight from up high?
    I am not really sure how sitting back will treat your knees, but I know when I squat it makes a big difference, I get noticeable knee pain, right after doing reps where I do not sit back enough, I would assume it would be the same for deadlift. Although, I have never felt pain in my knees from deadlifting.
     
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    yeah, little rounding from heavy weights seem normal

    doesn't it matter that i'm unracking from high since the weight isn't heavier than my 5 rep max?

    no knee pains here... knock on wood... else i'd stop running on pavement
     
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    Who told you that?

    It is a deadlift, not a start from your thigh lift.

    Start from the ground, it is a much better indicator of proper form, you are doing touch and go too man. You want all of your reps to be done basically the same as you would do a max.
     
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    your lower back is definitely rounded. also looked like you were doing rdl's instead of dl's. start the lift from the floor. lower the weight youre using until you can at the very least keep your back straight. pull your head back into your traps and try to lead the movement with your head. try to keep your chest out as well, that will help with keeping your arch. you dont need to drop your ass down super low but you are pretty high no matter what your pulling style is for a conventional dl
     
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    can anyone confirm the bold? thanks... no offense millz...
     
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    IT is ok, But you are gonna want your shins perpendicular to the gorund, this helps with both.
     
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