GUN David Olofson is getting 20 months in prison :(

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  1. mattsb2000

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    The guy with the AR that the ATF dicked with to force it to go auto.

    Fucked up.

    http://markknapp.multiply.com/journal/item/92

     
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    What a bunch of fucking retards, how do they explain "While the friend was shooting it he moved the safety switch to a point beyond the Fire position?" That makes absolutley no fucking sense whatsoever. You could swing that seleceter around like a fucking clock and never get it to fire more than one round no matter how fucking gay you are. My bet is that the disconnect broke and he was using commercial ammo with light ass primers. The media needs to be burned to the ground.
     
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    wow


    speechless
     
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    This is fucking bullshit.

    Terrible legal precedent for everyone in the nation, too :sadwavey:

    Let's hope this gets turned over on appeal, and soon.
     
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    appeal needed asap. thats crap that due to a gun malfunction he is going to prison
     
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    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=750464

    About as fair a write up as I could expect from the Journal; this is pretty much a reader's digest version of the case as it has evolved over the last 2 years or so.
     
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    Olofson had two previous gun-related convictions, including carrying a concealed weapon with his children trick-or-treating. He also noted that Olofson was reprimanded for corrupting Army computers and perhaps providing militia groups access to sensitive information.


    well, I didn't know that

    this guy sounds like a nut job
     
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    I read some of that stuff too.

    Hard to tell when the media is lying. :hs:
     
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    The fuck is his friend's problem? This is HUGE testimony, and I think this is what separates it from setting a precedent, or at least i'd hope so...
     
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    from the little that I followed the case there were several suspect problems with this guy. I do have a feeling he did wrong.
     
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    And?

    What the only thing they could fuck him with was this?
     
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    so they use ammo with weak primers combined with the already known problem of hammer follow to CREATE an automatic weapon?

    they wanted to burn this guy as soon as they diagnosed the problem.
     
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    Nice proof there jurist.
     
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    Exactly. And people want to make this government MORE powerful.
     
  17. Paul Revere

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    :mad: shit like this pisses me off like no other
     
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    I mean that he did wrong in direct-relation to this case.

    The description of the gun makes me believe that it WAS modified to do full auto. For example, the selector switch does go into a 3rd position. I understand there was other shady stuff, and I'm not getting into it... But after reading a little about it I do think he intentionally modified the rifle to shoot full auto, and was not authorized to do so.
     
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    then explain why it only does it when the selector switch is in the 3rd position? That sounds like concrete full-auto, to me. I mean it shouldn't even have a 3rd position! Even if it does, it should function the same in 2nd as 3rd, but it didn't.

    my theory:

    the need for soft primers is because disconnector was likely modified to not hold the hammer back until the trigger is reset. As a result, as the bolt rides forward, the hammer will hit the firing pin -- although with less force than a normal drop. That's also why the M16 has additional mechanics to hold the trigger until the bolt enters lockup (or close to), so that you get a full hard drop.
     
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    The "malfunction" that you say, if intentional, is a crime.
     
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    IIRC he disassembled it for transportation and when you take the grip off of armalite AR15s the safety spins like a clock.

    can anyone confirm/deny this?
     
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    Take the grip off your AR and see.

    Is there a detent spring that gets stopped by the grip?

    Hide your dog before you try it though.
     
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    actually the safety will fall out if the grip is off and the detent/spring are out (the grip is all that holds them in).

    Raises another question... why remove the grip?
     
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    smaller profile to ship.
     

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