Okay, did an ontrack data recovery on a hard drive that was formatted and installed Windows XP on. It was a completely garbaged OS system and I had to reinstall and could not do a dirty. I could not get the files at all due to permissions (the password for the admin/main account called "Gary") was not able to do crap with it. So I figured just do the data recovery after the fact, its worked like a charm most of the times for me, especially with ontrack. Jpg files and .doc files is all I am trying to get, basically, its garbage when I open them up. I think they are still in tact, the file sizes are correct etc., I am just not sure if NTFS encrpyts it or do you think they are just corrupt? I am able to see all the files that were previously on the computer with the ontrack and it looks pretty good. Any thoughts? I'm 95% the files are lost, but I thought I'd post this as a Any advice for getting files off someone's computer when you can't get into the admim/passworded accounts, it seems that you are pretty much fucked with out it. I'm not talking about from safe mode, just getting the shit at all with the NTFS permissions stripped so I don't have to deal with this bullshit again.