Discussion in 'OT Bar' started by Titus, Mar 27, 2008.
everyone goes for the darce now. i love the choke, prob my fav submission.
MMA = fad driven
I've been trying to do the darce choke and the brabo choke all the time lately. Love that shit.
ive been working them a lot for the past 3 or 4 months too, love em
it was the new hotness like a year ago. i went through that phase, and now it's pretty hard to get them. once people get accustomed to it, its as hard to get as anything else. it was very easy for a while because it caught a lot of people off guard. i still get it sometimes, but i used to get it literally five times every day that i trained.
most darce attempts i've seen in an event in a long time.
its a good choke, i like it.
but im so tired of seeing guillotine attempts.
yet another reason to love Andrei Arlovski
anaconda > that
I really started working it into my game about a year ago, I remember Chechen posted some decent vids featuring it, Ill look around to see if I still have any.
I would always fish for it from half guard, but I think thats a bad habit to get into when learning as you have to (obviously) give up the underhook.
Now Ill mainly catch it from turtle. People learn to look for it when you get the reputation of being that guy.
I think there are more set-ups for the darce.
4 darce attempts tonight (so far). 4 failures
Everyone quit digging for the underhook when I'm on top in half guard because I got so good with it, haha. So I quit going for it because no one would put them selves in the position for it.
yeah basically its a phase everyone goes through. i know a lot of great counters to it though. ive only been caught in it maybe four times ever.
isn't that easier to counter by just sticking your arm out?
i wouldnt know. i dont train counters, just subs
Last week my coach was talking about these 'phases'. He just calls the darce/brabo a head and arm choke because that's what he learned it as 10 years ago... and now it's "new" again and everyone is all over it. Another time his BJJ coash showed him this move that he said was "secret" and to "not show it to anyone outside our system". He almost laughed right there because it was a rolling omoplata that he had learned from Erik Pasulson's shoot wrestling years before.
Everything goes through phases, and anything "new" probably isn't really new.
Same, we have a couple "turtle guys".