Dan Neil - All-New Honda Accord

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  1. TriShield

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    The Accord EX-L's quieter, safer, more middle-of-the road. Just like its target audience.

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    By DAN NEIL, RUMBLE SEAT
    September 5, 2007

    I was sitting at a red light when they rolled up beside me, the guy riding his Suzuki Do-Me 8000 with his hot female companion on the back, her thongage pouring out of her low-rise jeans. Her blond hair fell from beneath the helmet and fluffed weightlessly in the hot breeze. Her skintight ballistic-armor motorcycle jacket was unzipped down to her navel. It's a good look, I guess, if you go in for that sort of thing.

    As I sat there in the Amana-white 2008 Honda Accord EX-L sedan, she looked over at me. I knew what she was thinking. I knew she wanted me.

    And why wouldn't she? The Honda Accord ska-reams confirmed heterosexual, and not in a Larry Craig way, either. This car ought to be issued with a complimentary pair of relaxed-fit dad jeans. Every male owner should get a free BlackBerry, which is like monogamy's ankle bracelet. To own this car is to be possessed with an inexplicable urge to trim hedges. While other cars suggest the owner is still working out issues -- experimenting, if you will -- the Accord sedan says, "Hey, I'm past all that. I'm a smoldering volcano of straight suburban love, and I accept it."

    For Accord-driving women, the message is related but different: "My husband likes girls."

    At this point, I could tell you all about the new, eighth-generation Accord (sedan and coupe, four- and six-cylinder engines), giving you the usual technical walk-around. It's bigger inside and out, more powerful and more fuel efficient, more generously equipped with cabin amenities and standard safety gear. The technology on board -- active noise cancellation, hyper-clean emissions control, available voice-activated nav and audiophile sound systems -- is worthy of a car in the next tax bracket. The sedan goes on sale next Wednesday, and the Coupe hits the dealer lots Sept. 20. Pricing is between $20,000 and $30,000. Honda sticks the landing, as usual.

    But the Accord is not just any car. This is one of the bestselling import-nameplate cars of all time, the beloved and dead-reliable vehicular helpmate of millions of American families. After nearly three decades on the market, the Accord is an institution, like the Federal Reserve or the missionary position. What you really want to know is, what does it mean?

    It means that, if you buy this car, you're probably from a multi-Honda family. It means that at some point in your life, you turned the key of an Accord, it turned right over and you thought, "My God, you can't kill these cars" (one of the biggest factors in Honda buyers' consideration is "DQR" -- durability, quality and reliability). It means that, either by income or temperament, you're solidly middle-class, modest, married. The Accord is automotive Presbyterianism.

    It also might mean that you're getting older. The median age of Accord buyers has gradually moved upward (from 41 in 1995 to 50 in 2005) as the car's sales have been carried along by a grateful, aging clientele. That demographic migration is reflected in the car's design and engineering. It's conspicuously quieter, more refined, less demanding and safer, both in the sense of crash tests and in its styling.

    What does the Accord mean? It might mean that you're getting broad of beam, Bud. The 2008 Accord sedan is significantly larger than the outgoing model -- 3 inches longer, 2.3 inches more wheelbase and almost an inch taller -- and the interior is gawdamighty huge, a full 120 cubic feet, which puts this midsize car in the Environmental Protection Agency's full-size category. The seats are broad and plush and well separated for more elbowroom, or for massively overburdened hips. It's difficult to reverse engineer the cabin and conclude that it's not designed for America's barons of the buffet.

    As for personality, this is how Honda characterizes its target audience: sociable and outgoing, success-driven, intelligent and value savvy. Uh-huh. This meeting of the Pasadena Rotarians will now come to order.

    Actually, here is where I think the new Accord comes off its well-oiled tracks a bit. The Accords I've driven in the past have all been pretty fun, light and quick to the helm, a little feisty. Indeed, by Honda's own reckoning, the fun-to-drive factor is a key differentiator between the Accord and the stolid Toyota Camry.]

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    The seats are broad and plush and well separated for more elbowroom, or for massively overburdened hips.

    But I must say, the new Accord sedan won't make anyone laugh those roller-coaster laughs. I drove the EX-L with the 3.5-liter V6 engine, which is, granted, an amazing lump of technology. This super-clean motor (PZEV rated with the five-speed automatic) has Honda's Variable Cylinder Management (VCM), which shuts down cylinders during periods of light load, running the car on four and even three cylinders as conditions warrant. That helps the car achieve 19/29, city/highway mileage.

    The engine puts out a respectable 268 hp, which ought to be enough to move the 3,616-pound car pretty well; however, something in the computer logic of the drive-by-wire throttle seems amiss. I had to utterly cane this car to get it to go fast, and there just didn't seem to be much in the way of mid-range torque available.

    Curiously, the new Accord Coupe, when equipped with a six-speed manual transmission, has an additional variable intake manifold and two intake cam profiles to make the 248 pound-feet of torque more palpable. Maybe that hardware should be generalized to the rest of the Accord V6 line.

    Otherwise, the Accord is chapter-and-verse Honda, front-wheel drive with double A-arm front suspension and multi-links in the rear. The ride is well damped and quiet, although the suspension feels fairly lax in high-energy maneuvering. There's considerable body roll, even though the car has a higher roll center and a lower center of gravity than the previous model. Honda talks about its new variable-rate steering for solid on-center feel, but on center, the Accord's steering feel is as numb as a phantom limb. It does have a quick overall rack ratio, however (2.56 turns, lock to lock).

    And then there's the styling. You know, styling is subjective and I don't want to pound this well-wrought competent family sedan with a name so many hold dear. . . . Well, maybe I do. Holy cow, this car is ugly. In white, it looks like it was whittled out of a bar of prison soap.

    See, that's the genius of it. A guy driving this car is so totally past needing to impress with a sleek, attractive automobile, or even one that's barely presentable. It's counter-programming. The man who owns this car has deep and unquenchable mojo. Women sense that sort of thing.

    Base price: $30,000 (est.)

    Price, as tested: $30,000 (est.)

    Powertrain:3.5-liter, 24-valve DOHC V6 with variable-valve timing and variable displacement; five-speed automatic transmission; front-wheel drive.

    Horsepower: 268 at 6,200 rpm

    Torque: 248 pound-feet at 5,000 rpm

    Curb weight: 3,616 pounds

    0-60 mph: 7.5 seconds

    Wheelbase: 110.2 inches

    Overall length: 194.3 inches

    EPA fuel economy: 19 miles per gallon city, 29 mpg highway (PZEV emissions rating, unleaded regular)

    Final thoughts: Accord, life's stability control

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  2. Vernal

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    7.5 0-60 baller
     
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    I like a lot of the interior, I don't like how square the steering wheel looks, and all the buttons on the radio stack with the AC. Way too busy.

    But I'm growing to like them better........ they still look a little bit like a Hyundai Sonata from the front, but the back is just kinda ugly.... don't really care for the tail lights.

    I like the engines though .... 190hp I4..... I wish my Camry had a little more power :wtc: .... it gets the job done, but 180-190 would be optimal. :wtc:

    And then there's the styling. You know, styling is subjective and I don't want to pound this well-wrought competent family sedan with a name so many hold dear. . . . Well, maybe I do. Holy cow, this car is ugly. In white, it looks like it was whittled out of a bar of prison soap.

    hahaahahah --- honda's design does take some getting used to. It's certainly not the feeling I had when I saw the newer Camrys, I'm one of the few on this messageboard that like them :hs:
     
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    god awful dash
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    I hate that faggoty silver trim

    My dads '06 interior is so much better
     
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    I'd get the coupe. :bowdown:
     
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    Sweet city fuel mileage btw :ugh:
     
  10. MrBonus

    MrBonus Et Tu, Brute?

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    Was there ever a car that screamed "I don't really care about cars" more than the Accord?
     
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    Interior looks to be more space efficient, more spacious in general although you can't tell unless you sit in the real thing :dunno:
     
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    I think they tried too hard to make it look more luxurious from the outside than it really is.
     
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    nothing like good old Camry styling from years past...
    pretty boring to look at
     
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    Kia makes a whole series of them.
     
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    and that writer is trying to be funny like clarkson, but failing horribly...
     
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    not Honda's fault Americans are getting bigger and bigger
     
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  18. Gyromite

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    Accord > Camry
     
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    03-07 has an excellent interior, dated sure ... but simple and well thought out. These new Accords look like their trying to jump into Acura RL territory on a mid-size sedan (oh wait - the new Accords are technically a full size sedan). :eek3:
     
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    The coupe looks better but either is 1000x better than my 626.
     
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    :hs: to each their own. Personally, Camry SE blows the fucking doors off on the Honda in terms of styling at least. The Accord just looks damn big and it's supposed to be midisized? What were they thinking using those tail lights.

    The front is growing on me though.

    The Honda does destroy the Camry though on engines... atleast four bangers... which like 60-70% of people buy....
     
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    Wow, Honda is really letting me down with all of their underwhelming new vehicles. My 06 V6 coupe will definitely be my last Honda. It seems they are late to the game when it comes to any kind of innovations or features.
     
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    Loved my '90 Accord. Rather have that still than my Mazda.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    I think my dads is one of the nicer looking vehicles on the road

    Black coupe
    black leather
    no spoiler

    it's sharp
     

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